Super Duper is indeed a super backup utility of which I’m a proud owner, I 
guess I thought of Time Machine for the Mac as its on every Mac machine ready 
to go right out of the box, far better having a Time Machine backup on your Mac 
than having no backup at all.
I do remember the conflicts that Rollback RX has or perhaps had with Diskeeper.
I’m a user of Diskeeper and I made a deliberate decision not long ago to stop 
using Rollback RX in favour of Diskeeper and the valuable job it does however 
given my desktop machine has a SSD for the Windows installation then perhaps 
the job of Diskeeper isn’t as important as it once was when running Windows 
from a hard drive.


> On 23 Aug 2018, at 6:42 pm, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> 
> My problem with RollBack RX Professional is the way that it interacts, or 
> doesn’t, as the case may be, with disk optimisation technologies.
> 
> For example,I believe Dane and I both use DisKeeper 18 Professional for 
> Windows. That app is excellent for eliminating millions of unnecessary I/O 
> operations per session. And again, the nice bit is that it requires no 
> configuration whatsoever from the user. So you install it and forget it. Just 
> let it get on with its job.
> 
> Regarding RollBack, I am honestly not sure how it would behave. I may try it, 
> after making a backup, of course!
> 
> Regarding Time machine on the Mac, I do’t rate it at all as a backup 
> solution. There’s certainly justification for the software, but not, in my 
> opinion, as a complete backup solution. Yes, you can install the operating 
> system itself from scratch. Sure, Disc Utility when invoked as the recovery 
> partition is used, or else as part of an operating system reinstall, but it 
> isn’t what I would call an efficient means of backup for your MacOS boot disk.
> 
> For me, the mantle of top backup solutions on the Apple platform are Super 
> Duper! And Carbon Copy Cloner.
> 
> The latter has more power than does Super Duper!. It’s perfectly accessible, 
> and not too difficult to use.
> 
> There is, however, another way of making backups of your hard drive on the 
> Mac. I shall write about that on the sister group to Techno-Chat shortly as 
> it’s a very valuable piece of information.
> 
> 
> On 22 Aug 2018, at 20:29, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net 
> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t have computer systems without backups here.
> The Mac OS has had automatic Time Machine backup capabilities for quite some 
> time now.
> With Windows it’s a slightly different story.
> Windows 10 has a built-in backup client though I don’t think its accessible 
> thus users who are blind and wanted to make backups of their data still have 
> to rely on third party backup and restoration software similar to the 
> software we’ve been discussing.
> Thankfully making a backup on the whole has become a lot easier, a lot les 
> time consuming and a lot cheaper, you can buy an external portable hard drive 
> with a very high capacity for your backups for less than a hundred dollars 
> now or you can take out a Cloud subscription very cheaply.
> People are still under the impression that creating a backup is a day long or 
> longer process and they say that they just don’t have the time.
> Backups can be created automatically at scheduled times without the user 
> having to do anything.
> I use backups here when trying to troubleshoot problems, for example I may 
> backup a Windows machine and then install software piece by piece to see if I 
> can track down a particular issue in the full knowledge that all data 
> pertaining to the computer I’m working on is safe and secure so once I find 
> the problem I can restore what’s needed to be restored and have that machine 
> up and working within minutes or no more than a couple of hours.
> As Gordon says, Roolback is a most helpful tool when doing this sort of thing 
> as well.
>  
>  
> From: Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>> 
> Sent: Thursday, 23 August 2018 5:09 AM
> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net <mailto:techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Terabyte Drive Backup & Restore Suite
>  
> Hello Roger
>  
> That’s what this group is all about, helping one another. It would appear to 
> be prudent, I think, to maintain a working backup of any computer system. In 
> actual fact, backups are a very large percentage of my working week. As I’m 
> responsible for some mission-critical projects, and also for the 
> smooth-running of my own servers, I simply couldn’t sleep at night were it 
> not for the ability to perform centralised backups and, if need be, recover 
> from a disaster situation using them.
>  
> Primarily, my mission-critical systems are not Windows-based. Much though 
> Microsoft has improved windows 10 in terms of resource-management and also 
> stability, I don’t take system integrity for granted. Therefore, all of my 
> own servers are MacOS-based. Each one has a working and licensed copy of 
> Carbon Copy Cloner installed on it. I am, of course, aware of the very 
> excellent Super Duper! For MacOS, However, Carbon Copy Cloner or, as it’s 
> often referred to, “CCC”, has some additional functionality. For instance, 
> there is the “Safety Net” which captures your essential files as they change. 
> Therefore, if the worst were to happen, you simply restore the contents of 
> the “Safety Net” as well as the system files etc.. That way, your backups are 
> current right up to the second wen problems occur.
>  
> Sort of like “RollBack" on the PC, I guess.
>  
>  
> On 20 Aug 2018, at 14:13, Roger Firman <ro...@golden-chord.com 
> <mailto:ro...@golden-chord.com>> wrote:
>  
> Dear Gordon,
>  
> Very many thanks for your really helpful response.
>  
> I’ll certainly take a look around.
>  
> Best wishes,
>  
> Roger.
>  
> From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>] 
> Sent: 20 August 2018 14:09
> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net <mailto:techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Terabyte Drive Backup & Restore Suite
>  
> Hello Roger
>  
> Yes, there are ways to migrate Windows from one PC to another. There are 
> quite a few applications out there whose function is to “Clone” either the 
> contents of a hard drive, or else clone the drive’s layout on a 
> sector-by-sector basis. The only proviso being that the “Target” drive must 
> be at least the same capacity of the “Source” drive.
>  
> There are a variety of ways you can accomplish the task. Obviously, the 
> easiest would be to use an application such as the Terabyte suite. All you’d 
> then do is use an external USB drive for your “Backup” of the original 
> system. Then, use the same external drive to “Restore” on the destination 
> system. Obviously this would involve booting from an external third drive, 
> but TeraByte and other utilities can help you create the boot media.
>  
> Actually, it occurs to me as I write that the Paragon software suite may be 
> more appropriate for this purpose. It would probably make the job simpler to 
> accomplish.
>  
> But in essence, Roger, the answer to your question is, quite definitely, 
> “Yes!”. You can indeed do this with Windows 10. Older versions of Windows 
> were much more fussy about this kind of thing, due to the activation 
> processes which Microsoft used on those versions. Much has changed, however. 
> And the tight compliance requirements have been substantially relaxed.
>  
> But anyway, you should be able to find the information you need on one of the 
> search engines. I urge you to research this issue if you’re planning such a 
> move. What’s best for my circumstances may not be best for yours, and visa 
> versa.
>  
> Before I close, may I just remind the group that there is a dedicated Windows 
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> On 20 Aug 2018, at 05:20, Roger Firman <ro...@golden-chord.com 
> <mailto:ro...@golden-chord.com>> wrote:
>  
> Dear Gordon,
> 
> Many thanks for your postings and related responses.
> 
> While my posting doesn't answer your point, it does, however, prompt a 
> question I've had in my mind for ages but never understood what is going on 
> behind the scenes as it were.
> 
> If I want to upgrade  my PC and decide to buy a totally new computer with a 
> different version of Windows, is there a way to avoid having to go back and 
> reinstall software from scratch, or is there a way with a utility such as the 
> onew you are describing, or another product, which would avoid this?
> 
> I can totally understand why avoiding the process of starting again, in the 
> circumstances mentioned in your post, is best avoided.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Roger Firman.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gor...@mac-access.net 
> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>] 
> Sent: 20 August 2018 01:05
> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net <mailto:techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
> Subject: [Techno-Chat]: Terabyte Drive Backup & Restore Suite
> 
> Good morning everybody, or whatever it happens to be in your timeline as you 
> read this post.
> 
> I just wanted to open a brief discussion about a product which, in all 
> honesty, I haven’t used for quite a few years, but really must get back too.
> 
> It’s called: “TeraByte Drive Backup And Restore Suite”, these days. When I 
> first used it, it was simply called: “Image For Windows”. For the convenience 
> of anybody who would like to check this out, it can be found at the below 
> secure website:
> <https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm 
> <https://www.terabyteunlimited.com/image-for-windows.htm>>
> 
> Now, it would appear, that product has changed out of sight since I last 
> looked at it! There is now an integrated suite of applications, of which 
> Image For Windows is an integral part.
> 
> You have the ability to backup to network devices, even whilst Windows is in 
> everyday use. You can burn images of your backup to CD/DVD/Blu-Ray, as well 
> as to USB devices such as external storage media.
> 
> Naturally, as with any other professional disaster recovery suite, you can 
> create DOS, Linux and Efi recovery disks, and I think those can be tailored 
> to your requirements.
> 
> The one thing I’m unsure about just at this moment is how, exactly, one is 
> supposed to boot into an environment whereby one can perform a complete 
> restore, given the need, (at least here), for accessibility during the 
> restore process. If there is anybody on list who uses this product who can 
> advise me on this point, I’d be grateful in the extreme.
> 
> But that aside for a moment, it certainly looks as though this product has a 
> lot to recommend it if you’re serious about full-system disaster recovery 
> backups. Something which I think everybody who values their personal data and 
> their working operating system environment would concur with. I for one know 
> from experience just how troublesome those occasions where something gos 
> disastrously wrong and your computer is left US as a consequence. If I can 
> avoid it, despite the fact that Windows now has an accessible restore 
> process, I have every intention of preserving my working system now, whilst 
> it’s good to go. I have invested significantly in terms of both the operating 
> system and associated software, plus the man-hours it has taken to build the 
> system up to its current working status. I can assure you, I have absolutely 
> no intention of repeating the laborious and intensely frustrating task of 
> building this thing up again from scratch!
> 
> If only, if only, it were possible to do things as simply as it is in MacOS. 
> Although I do not wish to create a debate about which system is superior. 
> That is entirely down to the individual or entity responsible for the device. 
> But, I digress.
> 
> Having had only the opportunity to play briefly with the software since I 
> installed it on Sunday, it would appear that much has changed since I 
> originally bought a license for the product. Since that time, there has been 
> an upgrade charge for access to the current version. However, I don’t 
> begrudge that in the slightest, given how much more powerful this product now 
> is. The cost of the upgrade was minimal, so I opted to pay it without 
> question, and I regard it as an investment. Believe me, if it saves me the 
> countless hours of work, and all the frustrations of a total reinstall, then 
> I consider the upgrade fee to be a most worthwhile investment.
> 
> Getting back to the product itself. The options presented even in the Windows 
> shell context menus appear to put lots of control at your fingertips. 
> Although it is true to say that, if you’re prepared to spend the time 
> required to learn the interface, the command-line version is, as the 
> developer states on their website, more powerful than the GUI interface. 
> However, one thing at a time. Possibly though, the command-line, (text-only) 
> version is the way to go for a full system restore.
> 
> I do like the fact that, if you configure it as such, your every change to 
> the hard drive is shadowed in a contiguous backup. It sort of puts me in mind 
> of Data Horizon Systems RollBack RX Professional, but this seems to be a much 
> more flexible system.
> 
> Another product which I intend to reevaluate shortly is NTI Corporation’s NTI 
> Drive Shadow. That, too, has undoubtedly evolved since I last tried it.
> 
> Thoughts, anybody?
> 
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