The Video Doorbell II is similar in its feature set.

> On 7 Apr 2019, at 2:06 am, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
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> I have to admit that, were I able to do so, I would be. Tempted to buy the 
> Ring Doorbell Pro. It has a lot of things going for it according to what I’ve 
> been reading today.
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> On 6 Apr 2019, at 14:04, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net 
> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
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> Horses for courses mate.
> I didn’t have an intercom system before so the expense wasn’t a problem in 
> that regard though the Ring system as I’m finding does have some serious 
> limitations that the Raspberry Pi III doorbell doesn’t.
> The obvious limitations concern the Ring system itself which is closed.
> This will be fine for most people who want easy setup but even then 
> connecting additional Ring devices can prove difficult as I discovered when I 
> tried to connect additional wireless door chimes.
> So back to the drawing board and back to chat with the people who helped me 
> out with the first Raspberry Pi doorbell system I had installed here.
> 
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>> On 6 Apr 2019, at 9:40 pm, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net 
>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>> wrote:
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>> Seems like an awful lot of expense to go too, just for a doorbell device. I 
>> don’t doubt that there are advantages. But to be honest, I personally still 
>> find that the intercom system I’ve been using since 2016 is perfectly 
>> adequate. It’s loud enough, and the buzzer tone of the bell can be heard 
>> easily all over my house. The intercom works solidly from everywhere, 
>> including my back garden.
>> 
>> I could have installed a camera as well but, to be honest, I didn’t see much 
>> point in going to all that expense. My intercom was professionally 
>> installed, and the guy who did the work certainly didn’t skimp on what he 
>> did. All of the wiring between the power supply and the bell itself is 
>> absolutely invisible. When he drilled through the wall to bring the cable 
>> from the external part of the bell, (the push-button), he made sure that the 
>> hole is sealed so no draft comes through the wall. You can’t even see that 
>> the work has been done. All cables are discretely tacked to the wall. But 
>> I’m getting off the point.
>> 
>> I am sure that there are more advanced systems available now and yes, I may 
>> consider adding one to my side door, as that’s the one I routinely use 
>> anyway. So we’ll have to see.
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 Mar 2019, at 11:00, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net 
>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> I’ve had the Ring Video Doorbell 2 for a week now so thought I’d write down 
>> my impressions of the product.
>> Before that I had a Doorbell which I built around a Raspberry Pi machine 
>> however the machine packed up so I had to get something quickly.
>> I looked for Raspberry Pi Doorbell projects to build and boy has the 
>> landscape changed since I built mine back in 2013, if you go to Youtube and 
>> look for Raspberry Pi Doorbell you’ll soon see what I mean so plenty for me 
>> to choose from and to think about.
>> The Raspberry Pi I was using was of a considerable age and there have been 
>> several generations of Raspberry Pi since, I think we’re now up to the Third 
>> Generation? Anyway the newer Pi machines are far more powerful than the one 
>> I was using and offer far more flexible connectivity options but one thing 
>> at a time and back to the Ring Doorbell Video 2
>> The idea of the Ring Doorbell is to have the unit installed at a location 
>> while you use your Smart Phone to interact with the doorbell. My Ring 
>> Doorbell is installed at the front door.
>> If you have the old trusty electro mechanical type doorbell already 
>> installed then you can choose to have it work in parallel with the Ring 
>> Doorbell.
>> In my case I needed a sparky to come and give me a hand with my installation 
>> but if its just a case of sticking the Ring Doorbell on a wall then you 
>> should be able to perform the whole  installation job yourself.
>> Depending on the type of\The Ring Doorbell has several power options and the 
>> one you choose will depend on your installation requirements. I already have 
>> a mains supply installed for my doorbell requirements so the ring Doorbell 
>> can take advantage of that.
>> If you’re just going to stick the doorbell on a wall then you can use the 
>> supplied rechargeable battery which clips into the bottom of the Doorbell 
>> unit.
>> Connecting the Ring Doorbell to your network may take a little time and can 
>> be a little tricky so be sure to follow the prompts in the Ring App and be 
>> sure to create your account at http://www.ring.com <http://www.ring.com/> 
>> which I suggest you do before you stat the setup process.
>> Its during the setup process that I started encountering disappointments 
>> with the Ring product.
>> Firstly the Ring Doorbell Video 2 will only connect to 2.4GHZ networks and 
>> the unit doesn’t have a LAN port which is odd given the Doorbell will be 
>> mounted most likely in most homes in a fixed position.
>> The Setup procedure in the Ring App was quite easy to follow and I have 
>> everything connected in around 10 minutes along with having completed tests 
>> to ensure that the doorbell was functioning as required.
>> Ring sends you a couple of optional eMails containing tips and so on which 
>> are worth reading.
>> The settings panels in the Ring App seem perfectly accessible.
>> So now to actually trying the Ring Doorbell out with my mobile phones and 
>> here I started to get annoyed.
>> When the Ring Doorbell detects motion or the button is pushed to ring the 
>> Doorbell a notification is sent to your phone.
>> In order to interact with the person at your door you have to interact with 
>> the notification on your phone so that means that you not only have to 
>> unlock your phone - if it is locked - but enter your Fingerprint or facial 
>> ID before you can even interact then with the Ring Screen.
>> The Screen contains several buttons including an “Accept” button which you 
>> can double-tap to start viewing video form your doorbell or speak to the 
>> person at your front door.
>> And here’s another thing to be wary of, the orientation of your phone is 
>> changed to landscape regardless of your orientation preference so you may 
>> need to change your method when you try to navigate the Ring App screen 
>> whilst interacting with the Doorbell.
>> The interactivity can be ended by double-tapping on the “End” button in the 
>> Ring App.
>> There is an easier way with which to interact with the Ring Doorbell by the 
>> use of an Echo Show or Echo Spot device and your voice.
>> You Suppose the Doorbell rings you can say to Echo Show, “Alexa View Front 
>> Door” where upon the Doorbell will be activated and you can start 
>> interacting with the person at your Front door.
>> The video is displayed on the Echo Show or Spot screen and you can talk to 
>> the person at your front door using hands free on the Echo Show or Spot 
>> device.
>> Note that the Ring Doorbell Video 2 cannot work with an Echo or Echo dot 
>> device which is a shame. Okay the Dot etc aren’t capable of receiving video 
>> but they do receive audio and the quality of audio the Echo Dot 3rd 
>> Generation and Echo put out is very reasonable.
>> As for the audio quality of the Ring Doorbell itself? Well I can describe it 
>> best as very average but certainly not too bad. I would have liked to see a 
>> control for volume of audio on the Doorbell itself. In most situations this 
>> should be loud enough for the person at the front door to hear but certainly 
>> not in reasonably noisy environments, say near a road with a lot of traffic 
>> running up and down.
>> Extra chime and camera units can be installed and I intend to experiment 
>> with a couple of extra chimes around the house.
>> 
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