Cynthia Bainbridge Mullis, Ph.D. wrote: 

> (Basically, the army reserves the right to abuse civil
> rights,
> discriminate, and endanger human life solely for themselves).  

If someone is not a civilian, how are they entitled to civil rights?

Chuck

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Charles M. Huffman, Ph.D.
Chair, Psychology Department
Cumberland College, Box 7990
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cynthia Bainbridge Mullis, Ph.D. [mailto:mullisc@;mail.uww.edu]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:09 PM
> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences
> Subject: Re: tips digest: November 07, 2002
> 
> Reservist called up:
> 
> Even though I'm only agreeing with what has been said so far, I have
to
> respond to this on because I'm a former GI who is thoroughly disgusted
by
> our current foreign policy.  Also, this pretty much happened to me
> once.  All of the "official" stuff will be handled by the University,
but
> you can cut through the red tape from both organizations by just
asking to
> see a copy of his or her orders.  Every soldier is used to pulling
them
> out
> sixty or seventy times a day and won't even blink.  Or just ask for
the
> name and Commander of the soldiers unit.  Part of the Commander's job
is
> to
> help their people transition between military and civilian life with a
> minimum of hassle, so there's nothing weird about calling the unit to
> verify the student's story.  Whether the person is taking a leave of
> absence from school or a job the situation is pretty clear cut,
especially
> when you keep in mind the fact that being activated and all issues
about
> where they end up being assigned are completely - and I mean totally!
-
> outside that soldier's control.  As of that moment they are completely
> subject to the whims of the army (or navy, whatever), and the army
really
> doesn't give a damn about the convenience of anyone but themselves.
The
> regulations sound really complicated when you read them verbatim, but
the
> general rule of thumb is clear:  no one can ever be penalized by an
> employer, school, organization, or anything else as a result of their
> military service.  So any rules the school may have about time limits
to
> complete degrees or incompletes or anything else are almost certainly
out
> the window in when someone is activated, especially if they get sent
> overseas.  I found this out through experience, too.  Basically, any
> policy
> that might penalize a soldier who was serving on active duty needs to
be
> waived for him or her.  If there are any legal exceptions to this I
sure
> don't know what they are, and if anyone else knows of any I'd be
pretty
> interested.  (Basically, the army reserves the right to abuse civil
> rights,
> discriminate, and endanger human life solely for themselves).  Come
> on!  Give the guy whatever breaks he needs.  He thought he was signing
up
> to serve his country and he ends up fighting for George Bush's
> re-election!  Even if the law didn't require us to cut him a break, it
> just
> seems terrible to add insult to injury by making him withdraw or even
risk
> failing classes.       Sorry - this is obviously something I've been
> thinking about lately.  I don't know whether to read the paper like
crazy
> so that I can stay mad as hell about all this or whether I should stop
> following the issue so that I can calm down and get some perspective.
The
> trouble is I'm not sure I want perspective.   Someone, please relate
this
> last part to psychology!  In the meantime I'll apologize for
cluttering
> the
> list with politics and go soak my head.        --Cindy M.
> 
> Cynthia Bainbridge Mullis, Ph.D.
> Asstistant Professor of Psychology
> University of Wisconsin - Whitewater
> 800 West Main Street
> Whitewater, WI  53190
> 
> (262) 472-3037  Office
> (262) 472-1863
> 
> 
> Office Hours - Fall 2002
> Mon    10:00-12:00
> Tues/Thurs  12:30-2:00
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