Marc Carter wrote: > Those old guys were *smart*... > >
If ever you hear of a concentration of philosophical, scientific, and artistic talent like there was in Athens between, say, 450 and 350 bc (a city of about 100,000 back then) move there and start drinking the water, breathing the air, and eating food grown from the surrounding ground. Something pretty astonishing was happening back then. (And when you consider that geniuses like Aristarchus and Archimedes came a century later during the Hellenistic "decline"... ) Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ ========================== >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Christopher D. Green [mailto:chri...@yorku.ca] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:49 PM >> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) >> Subject: Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong? >> >> Just for the record, Aristarchus of Samos outlined a >> heliocentric model of the universe 1700 years before Copernicus. >> >> Chris >> -- >> >> Christopher D. Green >> Department of Psychology >> York University >> Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 >> Canada >> >> >> >> 416-736-2100 ex. 66164 >> chri...@yorku.ca >> http://www.yorku.ca/christo/ >> >> ========================== >> >> >> ========= >> >> Marc Carter wrote: >> >>> Good points, John. >>> >>> It was really Copernicus who gave us the notion that you >>> >> could better explain the motions of the planets; it was >> Kepler who worked out elliptical orbits (but hated them -- >> circular motion required no explanation, but ellipses do), >> and Newton who invented gravity to explain the elliptical orbits. >> >>> Galileo gave observational evidence that there were more >>> >> than "seven heavenly bodies" in his observations of the >> satellites of Jupiter. >> >>> He gets the "blame" because he was the one who provided >>> >> evidence for the notion that things weren't as the Ptolemaic >> system would have it. >> >>> m >>> >>> -- >>> Marc Carter, PhD >>> Associate Professor and Chair >>> Department of Psychology >>> College of Arts & Sciences >>> Baker University >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: John Kulig [mailto:ku...@mail.plymouth.edu] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 6:44 PM >>>> To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) >>>> Subject: Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong? >>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, I agree! (sort of, but ...) My understanding >>>> >> (haven't read the >> >>>> original) is that Copernicus (Latinized from the Polish name >>>> Kopernik) was theoretically embedded in the medieval way >>>> >> of thinking >> >>>> which was to try to fit the available data into pre-existing >>>> medieval-style thinking. I believe he showed that either a geo or >>>> helio-centered universe could be made consistent with >>>> >> existing data. >> >>>> Galileo deserves a tremendous amount of credit for pushing science >>>> forward, but look to Kepler's three laws of planetary motion >>>> (1609/1619) for a real data-driven science (Tycho Brahe's data >>>> though), moving from the perfect circles of medieval thinking to >>>> elliptical orbits. But in empirically derived laws, he saw a >>>> different sort of perfection, mathematically, such as the >>>> relationship between distance from the sun and time to >>>> >> orbit (3rd law >> >>>> I believe) ... >>>> >>>> ========================== >>>> John W. 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