Apologies for my previous non-message under the heading "Re: tips digest: November 05, 2010", sent by accident!
Here's the real thing: On the subject of Guy Fawkes night antics: > I wonder if the English celebrate by not having fireworks? The answer to Marc Carter's tongue-in-cheek question is vividly illustrated here: http://tinyurl.com/34vsfx4 On a more serious note, Stephen Black wrote in relation to the way heretics were treated in seventeenth century England: >Nowadays, even in America they treat terrorists better than that. Whatever abominable methods the US have used in such instances, it is well to keep in mind that they really do pale into relative insignificance compared with the torture, beatings, raping, and killing practised elsewhere, e.g, in the Republic of Iran: The Times 18 September 2009 'Torture, murder and rape' — Iran’s way of breaking the opposition […] “The use of rape and torture was similar across prisons in Tehran and the provinces. It is difficult not to conclude that the highest authorities planned and ordered these actions. Local authorities would not dare take such actions without word from above,” wrote one investigator, in a coded reference to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader. Mehdi Karoubi, 72, a defeated presidential candidate, said: “These crimes are a source of shame for the Islamic republic.” Allen Esterson Former lecturer, Science Department Southwark College, London allenester...@compuserve.com http://www.esterson.org ------------------------------- From: Christopher D. Green <chri...@yorku.ca> Subject: Happy Guy Fawkes Day! Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:46:52 -0400 Americans have Independence Day, where fireworks represent the artillery of revolutionary battle. Canadians have Canada Day, where fireworks represent... the signing a peacefully negotiated charter? The English have Guy Fawkes day, which celebrates there NOT having been a big explosion at Parliament? :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes Chris -- Christopher D. Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 Canada ========================== From: sbl...@ubishops.ca Subject: Re: Happy Guy Fawkes Day! Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 09:21:24 -0400 On 5 Nov 2010 at 8:46, Christopher D. Green wrote: > Americans have Independence Day, where fireworks represent the artillery of revolutionary battle. Canadians have Canada Day, where fireworks represent... the signing a peacefully negotiated charter? The English have Guy Fawkes day, which celebrates there NOT having been a big explosion at Parliament? :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes ...which doesn't necessarily mean that the British commemorate a kinder, gentler event. According to the Wikipedia entry: "Each of the condemned would be drawn backwards to his death, by a horse, his head near the ground. They were to be "put to death halfway between heaven and earth as unworthy of both". Their genitals would be cut off and burnt before their eyes, and their bowels and hearts removed. They would then be decapitated, and the dismembered parts of their bodies displayed so that they might become "prey for the fowls of the air". Nowadays, even in America they treat terrorists better than that. Stephen -------------------------------------------- Stephen L. Black, Ph.D. Professor of Psychology, Emeritus Bishop's University Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada e-mail: sblack at ubishops.ca --------------------------------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=6269 or send a blank email to leave-6269-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
