IRBs are not just about how data are collected. They are also concerned with data storage and transmission.
Therefore, his inability to have access to the raw data makes complete sense to me. Paul > On May 22, 2015, at 8:25 AM, William Scott <wsc...@wooster.edu> wrote: > > There is something peculiar about Professor Green's spin on his own > culpability in the matter. Even though he is the co-author, he claims not to > have had access to the raw data because the study was not approved by > Columbia's IRB, only by UCLA. > > I do not know of anything that forbids data analysis without local IRB > approval. Am I missing something? > > Bill Scott > > ________________________________________ > From: Stuart McKelvie <smcke...@ubishops.ca> > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 7:36 PM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Subject: RE: [tips] Retraction of another psychology article > > Dear Tipsters, > > Last night, CBC's "As it Happens" broadcast a very interesting interview with > Dr. Green. At that point he said that the graduate student had not admitted > wrong doing. However, he said that the was almost certain that data were > fabricated. > > You can listen here: > http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-tuesday-edition-1.3079544/researcher-retracts-landmark-same-sex-marriage-study-claims-co-author-fabricated-data-1.3080637 > > Sincerely, > Stuart > > > ______________________________ > "Recti Cultus Pectora Roborant" > > Stuart J. McKelvie, Ph.D., > Department of Psychology, > Bishop's University, > 2600 rue College, > Sherbrooke (Borough of Lennoxville), > QC J1M 1Z7, > Canada. > stuart.mckel...@ubishops.ca > (819)822-9600X2402 > > "Floreat Labore" > ______________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Palij [mailto:m...@nyu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:24 AM > To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > Cc: Michael Palij > Subject: Re: [tips] Retraction of another psychology article > >>> On Thu, 21 May 2015 07:37:48 -0700, Ken Steele wrote: >>> On 5/21/2015 10:13 AM, Jim Clark wrote: >>> >>> Not to quibble, but this study was carried out by Political >>> Scientists. >>> >>>> On Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:10 AM, Ken Steele originally wrote: >>>> >>>> http://retractionwatch.com/2015/05/20/author-retracts-study-of-changi >>>> ng-minds-on-same-sex-marriage-after-colleague-admits-data-were-faked/ >> >> Oops! Please quibble. > > Well, who am I to refuse an invitation? ;-) > > Though PolySci types, there is much here that is relevant to psychologists, > especially methodologists. Putting the issue of fraud (unverifiable data > collection and analysis in the first study of the retracted paper) aside, it > is interesting to note that the authors Green and LaCour were co-authors on a > previous paper. From scholar.google.com, here is the reference: > > Aronow, P. M., Gerber, A. S., Green, D. P., Kern, H., & LaCour, M. J. > (2015). > Double Sampling for Nonignorable Missing Outcome Data in Randomized > Experiments. > > Note #1: Apparently this is an unpublished manuscript and Google Scholar also > has a 2014 version entry in its database. The link to the 2014 pdf of the > article on scholar.google.com is dead but the link to the 2015 is alive. You > can obtain the PDF of the manuscript here (for now): > http://csap.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/green2.pdf > > Note #2: Aronow is the first author of this paper. Aronow is also named in > the Retraction Watch article as the person Green went to regarding the > problems in the LaCour & Green manuscript > > Note #3: The PDF is available on Yale's "Center for the Study of American > Politics" (CSAP). A search of the website for "Donald Green" and "Michael > LaCour" turns up nothing -- it seems that the search "ANDs" the two names. A > search using "Michael LaCour" provides no hits while a search using "Donald > Green" > produces two hits; see: > http://csap.yale.edu/search/node/%22Donald%20Green%22 > Both hits are to CSAP workshops on quantitative research methods. > > Note #4. One of the workshop that Green gave at CSAP is based on the > manuscript identified above; see: > http://csap.yale.edu/event/macmillan-csap-workshop-quantitative-research-methods-donald-green-double-sampling > The workshop/presentation was being given at Yale's Institution for Social > and Policy Studies (ISPS) which the page immediately above claims that Green > was the director of during 1996-2011. > > Note #5: A search of ISPS for "Donald Green" and "Michael LaCour" > produces no hits. A search for just "Donald Green" produces a number of hits > (including the one at CSAP) plus others on topics such as regression > discontinuity analysis (Political Analysis), ISPS Experiment workshop, and > other political and methodological topics; see: > http://isps.yale.edu/search/node/%22Donald%20Green%22#.VV32u1Ldb-o > > Looks like Yale doesn't want anything to do with Michael LaCour even though > he is a co-author on a paper from one of their research centers. > > -Mike Palij > New York University > m...@nyu.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: smcke...@ubishops.ca. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13510.2cc18398df2e6692fffc29a610cb72e3&n=T&l=tips&o=44934 > or send a blank email to > leave-44934-13510.2cc18398df2e6692fffc29a610cb7...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: wsc...@wooster.edu. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13058.902daf6855267276c83a639cbb25165c&n=T&l=tips&o=44945 > or send a blank email to > leave-44945-13058.902daf6855267276c83a639cbb251...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: pcbernha...@frostburg.edu. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=1989792.4335dcd8aae84aca9a8bb2e89f646286&n=T&l=tips&o=44955 > or send a blank email to > leave-44955-1989792.4335dcd8aae84aca9a8bb2e89f646...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@mail-archive.com. 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