The SessionListener can check if the attribute implements Serializable, not if it actually is serializable.
i.e. Nothing to stop people from storing objects which implement serializable but will barf when actually are serialized. So - I want to catch each time there is a serialization exception and log it etc etc.. and even perhaps just drop that object and continue rather than just drop the serialization for the whole session (this is what appears to be current behaviour) i'm talking about 2 possibly orthogonal things here.. but just laying out what i'm trying to do. On 8/18/05, Christoph Kutzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question: why do you want to catch errors during serialization. > If you want to check that your attributes are serializable, you can use > a SessionListener as I have shown. I can not think of any other reason > why one would want to catch serialization exceptions. > > > > Nishant Deshpande wrote: > > Thanks for the input. > > > > Any idea how I can *catch* errors during serialization? I am guessing > > I will have to create my own PersistanceManager and override some > > functions.. > > > > Has anyone done this (or any other method of doing this)? > > > > > > On 8/17/05, Christoph Kutzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I didn't say that distributables don't have to implement > >>java.io.Serializable. In fact they have to. > >>I just had the impression (from your first post) that you thought by > >>putting an non-serializable Attribute into a HashMap, the attribute > >>would become serializable, too. > >> > >>Example: > >>If you want to put a java.net.Socket into the session the session won't > >>be distributable because Socket isn't Serializable. > >>But if you put the Socket object into a java.util.HashMap (which > >>implements Serializable) and put the map into the session, the session > >>still wouldn't be distributable. This is because to serialize the > >>session the HashMap and ALL its fields must be serialized. Because the > >>Socket object is now part of the map, this won't work. > >> > >>Serializable is just a "marker" interface, i.e. the class just > >>"declares" that is it serializable. > >>You should read the Java Tutorial (somewhere in the JDK docs). > >>There is explained what Serialization really means. > >> > >>Christoph > >> > >>Lintang JP wrote: > >> > >>>I'm referring to this document on : > >>>http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2004/04/14/clustering.html?page=2 > >>> The words "Serializable" here would mean for session replication, right ? > >>>CMIIW. > >>> On 8/17/05, Christoph Kutzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Hi Nishant, > >>>> > >>>>where did you read that <distributable> will *enforce* serializability? > >>>>AFAIK <distributable> "only" means that your sessions can be distributed > >>>>to different tomcat nodes (i.e. a cluster). It doesn't enforce anything, > >>>>you have to make sure that your session attributes are serializable by > >>>>yourself. > >>>> > >>>>I've done this for my testing environment with a SessionListener: > >>>> > >>>>public class SessionListener implements HttpSessionListener, > >>>>HttpSessionAttributeListener { > >>>> > >>>>private ObjectOutputStream stream = new ObjectOutputStream(new > >>>>OutputStream() { > >>>>public void write(int b) {} > >>>>}); > >>>> > >>>>public void attributeAdded(HttpSessionBindingEvent evt) { > >>>> > >>>>if (LOCAL_DEBUG) { > >>>>// try to serialize attribute > >>>>Object o = evt.getValue(); > >>>>synchronized (stream) { > >>>>try { > >>>>stream.writeObject(o); > >>>>} catch (IOException e) { > >>>>System.err.println(evt.getName() + " is not serializable: " + > >>>>e.getMessage()); > >>>>e.printStackTrace(); > >>>>} > >>>>} > >>>>} > >>>>} > >>>> > >>>>... > >>>>} > >>>> > >>>>I disable LOCAL_DEBUG in the production environment, because trying to > >>>>serialize every attribute is probably to expensive under heavy load. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>@Lintang: > >>>> > >>>>That wouldn't help any. If you put your attributes (which are not > >>>>serializable) into a HashMap (which CAN (!) be serializable) the > >>>>resulting object (map + attribute) still wouldn't be serializable. > >>>>Serializable is more than just implementing the java.io.Serializable > >>>>interface. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>greetings, > >>>> > >>>>Christoph > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Lintang JP wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>hi Nishant, > >>>>>You might want to put all your session variable inside HashMap or other > >>>>>datatypes that implements Serializable, rather than put it just in a > >>>> > >>>>single > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>variable. Refer to the javadocs, what are those Serializable data types > >>>> > >>>>are. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Or maybe you can build your own class with something like this : > >>>>>public class StoredSessionValue implements Serializable { > >>>>>// your session variable goes here > >>>>>// your setter and getter method for those variables goes here > >>>>>} > >>>>> > >>>>>You did right on your <distributable/> tags. > >>>>>On 8/17/05, Nishant Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>Hoping for some help from the tomcat experts on this list. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I want to ensure all objects stored in sessions are serializable. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I read that I can put the <distributable/> tag in my web.xml file to > >>>>>>'enforce' this. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>But I don't see any enforcing happening. I assumed it would throw > >>>>>>exceptions at runtime when I did 'setAttribute("xxx", > >>>>>>SomeNonSerializableObject)'. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I have put 'distributable' in > >>>>>> > >>>>>>web.xml: <web-app> ... <distributable/> ... </web-app> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I also have the following in server.xml: > >>>>>> > >>>>>><DefaultContext reloadable="true" allowLinking="true"> > >>>>>> > >>>>>><Loader className="org.apache.catalina.loader.DevLoader" > >>>>>>reloadable="true" debug="1"/> > >>>>>><Manager className="org.apache.catalina.session.PersistentManager" > >>>>>>pathname="/cv/data/tmp" debug="5" saveOnRestart="true" > >>>>>>distributable="true"> > >>>>>><Store className="org.apache.catalina.session.FileStore" > >>>>>>directory="/cv/data/tmp" > >>>>>>debug="5"/> > >>>>>></Manager> > >>>>>> > >>>>>></DefaultContext> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Am I missing something? How is the serializability enforced? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Also another question: the serialization does not happen in the > >>>>>>directory i specify for Store above, rather it happens in the > >>>>>>$CATALINA_HOME/work/Catalina/* directories. Any ideas about this one? > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Thanks, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Nishant > >>>>>> > >>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
