With regard to providing a certificate to the web site, but not
authenticating per se:

With regard to writing your own custom realm, it seems reasonable--but I
would not have thought something like this would be so difficult.

Instead of having CLIENT-CERT authentication, you might consider simply
having users submit their certificates through a form upload.  It might
avoid some of the problems that you're facing.

With regard to logging out a user:

The method that I presented works for FORM authentication only, as BASIC,
DIGEST, and CLIENT-CERT deal with (usually) readily available credentials.
That, Internet Explorer and Netscape will remember usernames and passwords
and continue to use the same authentication information until it
fails--before prompting you for a new username and password.  I would
speculate that they behave in the same manner with respect to a certificate
credential.  I'm not sure how to get browsers to reset their sessions on the
client-side.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Dahbura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 16:37
Subject: Re: help with client certificates


> That is correct!  It is prompting me for my certificate it is just telling
the
> following on a tomcat error page:
>
> type Status report
>
> message Access to the requested resource has been denied
>
> description Access to the specified resource (Access to the requested
resource
> has been denied) has been forbidden.
>
>
> I am thinking I may need to write a custom realm module that takes a
certificate
> and just assigns a dummy role to any user.  Little bit convoluted to get
this
> done.....?
>
>
> The second thing I am trying to do is logout the user (once they come in
with
> their cert).  Doing a session.invalidate() does not cause the browser to
> reprompt the user for their certificate information upon rehitting the
site-was
> wondering how to do that as well.
>
> Tony
>
>
> Sean Dockery wrote:
>
> > Let me see if I understand what problem you are experiencing...
> >
> > By not having role-names, CLIENT-CERT authentication is not being
enforced?
> > Is that what you mean?
> >
> > Sean Dockery
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Certified Java Web Component Developer
> > Certified Delphi Programmer
> > SBD Consultants
> > http://www.sbdconsultants.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Dahbura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:57
> > Subject: Re: help with client certificates
> >
> > > Sean:
> > > This matches my xml file to a tea except I also have:
> > > <login-config>
> > >   <auth-method>CLIENT-CERT</auth-method>
> > >  </login-config>
> > >
> > > The problem I am trying to solve is the fact that I do not have any
> > > role-names.  I need to have the application request a certificate from
the
> > user
> > > when they hit a servlet and just accept it.  I basically want to
blindly
> > let a
> > > user in but require them to present a certificate.  The purpose of the
> > > application I am writing needs to access data within the certificate
and I
> > do
> > > not know who the users are until they present the certificate and I
can
> > grab
> > > some data from it.
> > >
> > > I need to simulate the actions of the clientAuth="true" on a connector
> > factory
> > > (it blindly lets you in but forces a certificate to present).  Reason
this
> > > cannot be used is some of the application needs the cert and some does
> > > not.......
> > >
> > > Hope this explains it!
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > Sean Dockery wrote:
> > >
> > > > In your web.xml...
> > > >
> > > > <security-constraint>
> > > > <web-resource-collection>
> > > >   <web-resource-name>MySecurityRestriction</web-resource-name>
> > > >   <description>Protect the resource.</description>
> > > >   <url-pattern>/ServletUrlPattern</url-pattern>
> > > >   <http-method>GET</http-method>
> > > >   <http-method>POST</http-method>
> > > > </web-resource-collection>
> > > > <auth-constraint>
> > > >   <description>Authorized Users Group</description>
> > > > <!-- no role names means no authentication required for this
> > resource -->
> > > > <!--
> > > >   <role-name>manager</role-name>
> > > >   <role-name>users</role-name>
> > > > -->
> > > > </auth-constraint>
> > > > <user-data-constraint>
> > > > <!-- transport-guarantee must be one of NONE, INTEGRAL, or
> > CONFIDENTIAL -->
> > > >   <transport-guarantee>CONFIDENTIAL</transport-guarantee>
> > > > </user-data-constraint>
> > > > </security-constraint>
> > > >
> > > > Google for "transport-guarantee web.xml" on the web.
> > > >
> > > > Simulating a logout in some servlet code...
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > HttpSession session = request.getSession(false);
> > > >
> > > > /*
> > > >   if there is any information in the session that you want to keep
(such
> > as
> > > >   a locale override), grab a reference to it here...
> > > > */
> > > >
> > > > if(session != null)
> > > >   session.invalidate();
> > > >
> > > > session = request.getSession(true);
> > > >
> > > > /*
> > > >   restore stuff into the session that you wanted here...
> > > > */
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > Sean Dockery
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Certified Java Web Component Developer
> > > > Certified Delphi Programmer
> > > > SBD Consultants
> > > > http://www.sbdconsultants.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tony Dahbura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 03:11
> > > > Subject: help with client certificates
> > > >
> > > > > I am trying to configure my web application within tomcat to
require
> > > > > client certificates for certain areas.  I am not concerned about
what
> > > > > the certificate contains-only that it is a valid certificate (not
> > > > > expired).
> > > > >
> > > > > I have the ssl piece working and when I use the connector option
> > > > > clientAuth="true" this makes my whole ssl session require
> > > > > certificates-which is not what I want.
> > > > >
> > > > > How can I configure the web.xml file to require certificates for
only
> > > > > certain servlets/urls of the webapp?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would like the same functionality of clientAuth="true" (which just
> > > > > checks the validity of the certifiicate but does not try to verify
or
> >
> > > > > see if the user is in a list somewhere) but at the url/servlet
level
> > > > > within the web.xml for the web app.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Another quick question is how can one force the user to have to
select
> > > > > the cert again once inside the web application (simulate a
logout).
> > > > >  Does invalidating the session force this?  Do not want the user
to
> > have
> > > > > to quit out of the browser.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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