Daniel,

I find it so hard to beleive that you can mix your righteous attitude with profanity and demeaning remarks. There is something seriously wrong with this picture...like you want to be holy and righteous, but you also want to be a naughty boy.

I have no problems, as moderator, or as truth talk member, with either your holy attitude, or the torah observant position from which you are coming. In fact, I welcome that point of view on TT. I beleive that we can learn from you. However, your trashtalk and demenaing style belies your attempt at holiness.

  I read James 3 and it reminded me of you...especially from v. 10 on...

1. My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation. 2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. 3 Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. 4 Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. 5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. 7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: 8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be. 11 Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter? 12 Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh. 13 Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. 14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. 15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. 16 For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. 18 And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

Additionally, consider these verses:

Colosians 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. 9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; 10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him."

Matthew 5:37: "But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."

Matthew 12:34-36: "O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment."

Psalm 19:14: "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer."

Daniel, I exhort you to heed the scripture. Clean up your toungue and soften your heart. Become a teacher and defender of the faith, not a reviler or a mean spirited person.

You may feel that once you have come on so strong to us that you must to continue to insult us, talk trash, and be demeaning, in order to not appear weak and to save face. But stop now and we will forgive you and welcome you.

Perry


From: Daniel Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Longsuffering is a fruit of the Spirit
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 14:08:56 -0700 (PDT)

John said:
But, of course, he is not new at all. "This time around " is just an
excuse. Paul was not :longsuffering: as you apply the concept in regard to the
imoral young man who was sleeping with his mother. Jesus would not wait ten
seconds with this guy -- not ten seconds. His language is a perfect picture of his
heart -- and on other occasions, even you have said so. I say get rid of
the punk and with that, I rest my case and will begin to continue in Izzy's
most resent suggestion.


Daniel responds:

And this is coming from a grandpa who makes childish remarks like wishing i did not produce children??? I mean, I'm 25 and you guys come crashing down on me -- but when a grey haired freak like John makes a sophmoric remark, why no one even peeps a word. Hypocrites the lot of you!

Johnny boy -- no one in their right mind would ever take you seriously. You need a diaper change -- your shit (dung that violates Yah's word) is seeping out down your legs.

In YahShua and burning with His Love,
Daniel John Lee -- www.TorahandSpirit.com


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