>And you were doing so good for a while. > Terry Laugh! Ah well you knew it couldn't last forever. Every chance I get to talk about the gospel it is going to come tumbling out. Once you taste God's scandalous grace there is no going back.
Jonathan Hughes -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is sin? Hughes Jonathan wrote: >This would be a great discussion to have. I started this with you >David the day before you left the forum for other priorities. This was >when I 'outed' you as a person who believes sin is a legal issue, not >an organic issue. > >Defining sin in legal terms instead of relational terms will lead one >to misread the gospel. One side (legal) introduces an idea of >separation of God and therefore hopefully a plan to get back in right terms with God. >The other side (relational) sees sin as the clouding over of the >Father's heart for His people, resulting in blindness of us being able >to see God for who He is, for us. One side (legal), realizing that the >toys are broken tries to fix the toys. The other side (relational) >realizing that the toys are broken and diseased looks at fixing the >factory. One uses the conscience to climb back to God (legal) while >the other relies on Christ to draw them within the relationship of the >Godhead (relational). One sees sin as something that separates God and >man (legal), the other sees sin as blinding the relationship between >God and man, not creating an actual separation (relational). One >believes that sin separates us from God, the other agrees with >scripture that nothing can separate us from the love of God. One >believes that hell is outside of Jesus Christ (legal), the other that >hell is within Jesus Christ who holds all things together (relational). >One believes in Greek thinking (legal), one believes in scripture >(relational). One thinks from a fallen mindset, "I do bad things, >therefore I am bad", one thinks from a relational Hebraic mindset, "I >do bad things and God loves me anyway". One is based upon exclusion >(legal), the other upon inclusion (relational). One is based upon >Adam, the other upon Jesus Christ. One believes that Adam and sin are >more powerful than God, the other that Jesus is more powerful than sin. >One believes that God hates sin and sinners, the other that God hates >sin but loves sinners. One believes in condemnation, the other in no condemnation in Jesus Christ. >One believes in an anemic Christ, the other in the author and finisher >of our faith. > > >Jonathan Hughes >=============================================================== > >And you were doing so good for a while. > Terry ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. This e-mail and any attachments contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. Thank you for your cooperation in connection with the above. Ce courriel ainsi que tous les documents sây rattachant contiennent de lâinformation confidentielle et privilÃgiÃe. Si vous nâÃtes pas le destinataire visÃ, s.v.p. en informer immÃdiatement son expÃditeur par retour de courriel, effacer le message et dÃtruire toute copie (Ãlectronique ou autre). Toute diffusion ou utilisation de cette information par une personne autre que le destinataire visà est interdite et peut Ãtre illÃgale. Merci de votre coopÃration relativement au message susmentionnÃ. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
