Kevin Deegan wrote:
Here is the worst thing they could come up with.
DAVEH: I'm not sure LDS folks in general want to show the worst of
people. In this case, I think they are showing what was going on in
SLC during our Conference time so that folks would have more than just
a newspaper or second hand account of the event. But....I don't know
anything about the motives (to portray the street preachers) of the
folks sponsoring the site. Before you get all excited about that, I'm
merely suggesting that I don't know if they wanted to be vindictive, or
portray the street preachers falsely, or whatever. I do realize it is
a site meant to defend the LDS perspective, and I would assume they
prefer to let the street preachers be themselves, and let the audience
come to a conclusion based on what they see. But as you know....I'm
just thinking out loud.
Go ahead look. This video was compiled by Mormons so it should
show our worst side.
Go ahead critique the preaches I know them, I was there.
What is so wrong with this?
DAVEH: I guess it depends on how you define wrong, Kevin. Legally,
they are doing nothing wrong as I see it. But I do wonder how
non-Christians perceive it. I've not asked one, so I don't know....I'm
just curious, with a dose of concern for whether or not it gives
Christianity a black eye to watch somebody shouting and airing
underwear in public.
Video clips here:
Mormons have long been a special victim class but that is
another story.
DAVEH: ??? I'm lost on that one, Kevin.
DaveH,
Something is being twisted here beyond it's bounds. The term "street
preacher" refers to all evangelicals that preach in the open air, but
you
are using it to refer to those that offend you. That is not fair, it is
a
stereotype based on the actions of just a few by your subjectivit
judgement.
This is analagous to homosexuals calling someone "homophobe" because
they
disagree with the lifestyle choice. DaveH, are you a HOMOPHOBE?
Probably not
by the definition of the word based on it's latin roots (one who fears
homosexuality), but according to the homosexuals, you may be because
"as
they define it", they use it to mean anyone who does not agree with
their
lifestyle choice!
I suggest instead of using the term "street preachers" to refer to
those
you do not like, and insulting all open air ministers, choose another
designation, one more descriptive of the group you are trying to
disparage.
Perry
>From: Dave Hansen
>Reply-To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?
>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:30:02 -0800
>
>DAVEH: I'm not concerned for the LDS folks, as much as it troubles
me how
>the world perceives Christians treating others who have contrasting
>beliefs. I wonder if the street preachers consider the impact they
have
>on Christianity as a whole. I also ponder how Jesus would view
their
>antics.
>
> I suspect there are a lot of people who judge Christianity on the
acts
>of those they know who may proclaim faith in Jesus, but act in a
less than
>Christian manner. Have you ever heard non-church folks complain how
they
>know Christians who are hypocrites? Sometimes we make excuses for
th em,
>saying that hypocrites belong in church. While that may be as good
an
>excuse as we can offer in explanation of a Christian hypocrite's
bad
>behavior, how does one explain to a non Christian the behavior of
those
>Christians who attempt to humiliate and denigrate other human
beings in an
>effort to promote their brand of Jesus? Does that really promote
the image
>of Jesus' love for us that many Christians want to share with the
world?
>Seems like a conflicting message to me.
>
>David Miller wrote:
>
>>DAVEH:
>>
>>
>>>>"from my limited experience, it seems to be the SOP
>>>>for some street preachers. That's why I am so curious
>>>>about why some of them go to the lengths they do in
>>>>decrying the LDS Church during Conference time in
>>>>SLC twice a year. IF they really understood the
>>>>Morm on mentality, I can't believe they would use such
>>>>tactics to try to convert us away from Mormonism.
>>>>What they do there only drives us closer together,
>>>>rather than apart."
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>Kevin Deegan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Since it is so ineffective I would think you would
>>>be starting a SP school so you could help drive
>>>all those members together! Besides it proves the
>>>church is true!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Kevin has a point here, Dave. If the Street Preachers are
driving the LDS
>>members closer together, shouldn't you be happy about that?
Maybe the LDS
>>organization should be paying the Street Preachers to come to
your
>>conferences. :-)
>>
>>Peace be with you.
>>David Miller.
>>
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