Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:54:36 -0800

While you are busy defending yourself  , did you get my point?    
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:28:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

Not my spelling just my typing skills
my 2 typing fingers trip over one another
especially when I hit speeds of upwards of 10 words per minute!
It is a good thing I do not get paid for my typing skills at work.
 
(hit the key to the left of d) sepends
 
one of the most difficult to type words on the keyboard. two keys & letters in close proximity! fingers get tripped up.  strucre
 
 
INTREAT versus Entreat? not a spelling problem. Some would say this is easy.
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Ignorant, stupid  : akin to "idiot." 
 
 
Kevin  --  take a look at your misspellings : 
 
It sepends on how one looks at it
 
How about the sentence strucre and the meaning
 
Indifference is active oposition in His book!
 
 
Like I said  -- it is easy. 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:27:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

Paul is not saying that ignorant or stupid people have been intrusted with the gospel of Christ. 
 
He could not be!
ENtrusted:  Put into the care or protection of someone


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judy  --  invective is your middle name when it comes to "communicating" with the opposition.   Ditto Deegan.   Its not even close.    You askd for examples when, in fact,  you are asking us to convince you that we are right.   Impossible.    And you have taken your cue from Terry quite well.   Now we can expect to hear   --  over and over again  -   that Bill's conversation is so much above the rest of us.  
 
Lets  be sure to ignore the fact that "God using the unwise to confound the wise" HAS Nothing TO DO WITH EDUCATIONAL Accomplishment's.   The statement was written by a highly educated person  --  but one who believed in Christ and FOR THAT REASON ALONE was considered "unwise" and "foolish."    
 
Paul is not saying that ignorant or stupid people have been intrusted with the gospel of Christ.  But go ahead and disagree with that.  You prove nothing by so doing.    
 
jd
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Judy Taylor <jandgtaylor1@juno.com>
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Sent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 23:24:26 -0500
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

You are Bill and not Lance who made the "accusation" to begin with but apparently you two are open to the same kinds of thoughts.  ATST the two of you are either unaware or ignorant as to just how patronizing and arrogant most of what
you write to the list is for others. 
 
Most everything Lance writes is an opinion that includes a non flattering judgment toward somebody's person rather than a contribution toward the subject at hand.  And you Bill are so far off into academia that you are speaking in another tongue
most of the time so far as I am concerned anyway. 
 
The red letters below are definitely NOT "invective filled"  I wrote them in good faith without the intent to injure or wound and I do not consider myself the enemy of either of you.  It would be a good thing if both of you learned  just who your enemy is in reality because this is just one more of his firey darts.
 
Great peace have they that love Thy Law and nothing offends them (causes them to stumble)
Psalm 119:165                                              
 
 
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:09:12 -0700 "Taylor" <wmtaylor@plains.net> writes:
What "invective" filled language Lance?
Examples please....
Oh the ignorance of those who don't see things the way you do again Lance along with the fact that you are unable or unwilling to produce an example of invective filled language coming from me.
Let's see "INVECTIVE"
 
 
Okay, more below:
Hmmm - Just as I thought, the Holy Spirit has been fired and men have taken over; men who exalt Greek present passive verbs..
OK Kevin God has spoken ... so now forever hold your peace.....
[I]t's not easy to try and sort out what Bill is saying here with Plato sitting in the RH corner
 
Amazing how the devil jumps in and shuts it down just when it starts getting good isn't it??
 
Thank you for being a friend,
 
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

Oh the ignorance of those who don't see things the way you do again Lance along with the fact that you are unable or
unwilling to produce an example of invective filled language coming from me.  Let's see "INVECTIVE"
Noah Webster 1828 - Invective Noun .... A railing speech or _expression_; something uttered or written intended to cast opprobrium, censure or reproach on another; a harsh or reproachful accusation. It differs from reproof as the latter may come from a friend and be intended for the good of the person reproved; but invective proceeds from an enemy, and is intended to give pain or to injure. Is followed by against ie: He uttered severe invectives against the unfortunate general.
Adjective: Satirical, abusive, railing
No Lance, it is not my ignorance it is your lack of understanding.  You feed on SNL, Bono, Dylan etc. and the fruit of it is an inability to discern a friend from an enemy.  I'm really sorry about that.
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:57:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I've always thought you unaware of the hurt (read 'invective-filled language) you do to others through your speach, Judy. I stand by that. However, this doesn't mean you don't do it. It just means that you don't know you're doing it, IMO.
 
What "invective" filled language Lance?
Examples please....
 
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:36:37 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
AND I DARESAY Judy, that your invective-filled language on TT would equal or surpass that of John Calvin WITHOUT QUESTION!! (In all candor so would mine, Kevin's, Dean's, John's, and Linda's). The 'unnamed'  regularly display a model of 'engagement' that we all might aspire to.
 
 
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On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:24:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Obviously spoken by someone who has never read the man.
Not one who has ever read 'The Insitute' would ever say such as this!
Borrow the 2 volume set, Dean. Prayerfully, give it a few hours. You may thereafter wish to apologize.
 
Noone who has ever read Alice in Wonderland would ever say the Lewis Carroll
was a cocaine addict either.
 
I daresay that right now Dean knows more of Christ than Calvin did when he wrote his
Institutes and isn't Christ alone the standard for His followers and is He not the same
yesterday, today, and forever - unchanged by time or culture?
 
Calvin's actions were unbiblical in the extreme but were consistent with his theology
Isn't that fact reason enough to question Calvinism itself and to examine it carefully
from Scripture which is apparently what Dean has been doing already?
 
I would say the advice above is obviously spoken by someone who has never
read Dean - Why not take your own advice Lance and you may thereafter wish
to apologize to him.
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)
 

                                         judyt                                       
He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments
                              is a liar (1 John 2:4)

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