Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

[Terry Clifton]

I am not judging you Judy.  I asked everyone here to judge themselves.  Evidently you have given this much consideration and are well satisfied with yourself.  That surprises me, but then  you know yourself better than I do.  Congratulations on doing so well. Terry Judy Taylor wrote: According to your scale of measure Terry - and assuming you know everything there is to know about the one you are judging. However, only God actually sees and knows the heart and you are judging by how it appears outwardly ... Jesus himself would not have appeared too humble on the day He weilded those cords in the temple either according to the outward look of humility and neither would Paul have appeared too humble in some of the places where he barged in like a street preacher and began speaking against what the ppl believed in (because they had been raised in it).  I think all of us are aware of our own human shortcomings but facts are - it is God who is working in us to will and to do of His good pleasure and I am not about to call what He has done in my life a "miserable failure"  You should have seen/known me before.  Tell me - what does "boldness to speak the truth" look like? and remember that love covers a multitude of sin ... If you think we are missing it don't stone us, pray for us.  There is responsibility on both sides and only one Judge.  It's impossible to function while all the time examining one's own navel for fear of offending.    judyt   On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:22:20 -0600 Terry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I do not agree, Iz.  In fact, I would say not very perceptive at all.  There are sins of commission and there are sins of omission, and it is not too hard to find one or the other in any post on TT.     I stand by my statement that it is hard for us to see ourselves as others see us, and if that statement is true, it is also hard for us to see ourselves as the Lord sees us.  I would suggest as an eye opener, that anyone on here who thinks that they are squeaky clean in the eyes of the Lord do the following:  Go back over your last twenty posts.  Examine them closely.  See if there is any meekness, any humility in any of them.  Then look again.  See if you can see any love for others in your words.  Finally, look again, this time to see how well you have managed to edify the Saints that you have been talking with, or down  to.  If seventy percent is a passing grade, you should see these things in at least fourteen of your posts. I am a miserable failure.  How much better are you and Judy doing? Terry ShieldsFamily wrote: Very perceptive, jt.   iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:18 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes Because others may have a critical and jaundiced eye does not necessarily mean there is sin in the object or focus of such criticism - at times it means the person looking needs to work on their own beam. On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:34:43 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: EXATAMUNDO! I have long been mystified by such, Terry.  From: Terry Clifton   I suspect that you are correct.  Sometimes it is hard to see ourselves as others see us. Lance Muir wrote: How, you ask, did I figure that out, Terry? The same way you did. ARE YOU, TERRY, UNAWARE, THAT SOME EXCLUDE THEMSELVES FROM THIS.? From: Terry Clifton Lance Muir wrote: Speaking ONLY of expressions on TT, may I ask ALL participants who have never sinned ON TT to identify themselves. IMO, NOT ONE HAS NOT SINNED ON TT ALONE NEVER MIND THEIR LIVES APART FROM TT. DUH! How did you figure that out?  I can spot the sins in you other guys every time you contribute. Terry                                          judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)                                            judyt                                        He that says "I know Him" and doesn't keep His Commandments                               is a liar (1 John 2:4)