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I don't think Dean is as hung up on David's genitals as
you are Bill.
I have explained this numerous times, Judy. Reread my post
of a few days ago pertaining to the intrinsic vs extrinsic nature of the
Atonement for starters. By the way, thanks for being honest. This should
clarify any confusion Dean may have had about being in agreement with you in
regards to Christ being a genetic descendent of David et al.
Bill
No; my belief is that Jesus was fathered in the
womb of Mary by the Holy Spirit
Why is the flesh connection so important to you
Bill?
I believe he was fruit of David's genitals according to
the flesh, Judy. Do you believe the same?
He does not have a human father Bill; he was
fathered by the Holy Spirit and the family he was born into is
that
of Abraham/David. Why are you so adamant
about what you can not possibly know. He was born holy. David was
not
(see Psalm 51:5) "Behold I was shapen in
iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me" So Bill are you
saying that
Jesus was born from natural seed and inherited
the "iniquities of the fathers" also??
I have no problem whatsoever with the Seed having a spiritual
element, Judy, but that is not the issue, is it? Do you deny that Jesus'
"flesh body" is of the genetic material of Abraham and David?
The seed to whom the promises were made is SPIRITUAL SEED Bill and the second
Adam is spiritual also (see 1 Cor 15:45,46). Please don't try to make
it something it is not. Abraham BELIEVED God and it was counted
to him for righteousness. His sperma
who thought they all had it made in the shade got a rude awakening in
John 8:33; Jesus burst their bubble so to
speak. The seed of Abraham are the children of faith or
"spiritual seed" see also Galatians 3:29. I am not saying that
Jesus did not walk around in a flesh body as the gnostics of John's
day did - so please do not bring out the old red rebellion flag once
more because it is getting quite wearisome....
I have no problem whatsoever with the Seed having a spiritual
element, Judy, but that is not the issue, is it? Do you deny that
Jesus' "flesh body" is of the genetic material of Abraham and
David?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006
5:03 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk]
Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David
Bill you have a Greek gospel because your
faith rests in Gk words .. I wonder, are all Greeks
saved??
Jesus Christ is who His Own Word says he is
whether or not orthodoxy agrees and whether you see it or not.
Right now you are attempting to validate the pronouncements
of orthodoxy which is the religion you hold to.
The seed to whom the promises were made is SPIRITUAL SEED Bill and the
second Adam is spiritual also (see 1 Cor 15:45,46). Please don't try
to make it something it is not. Abraham BELIEVED God and it
was counted to him for righteousness. His sperma who thought they all had it made in the
shade got a rude awakening in John 8:33; Jesus burst their bubble so
to speak. The seed of Abraham are
the children of faith or "spiritual seed" see also Galatians
3:29. I am not saying that Jesus did not walk around in a
flesh body as the gnostics of John's day did - so please do not
bring out the old red rebellion flag once more because it is
getting quite wearisome....
"I am
the Rhiza ('Root' or
'Life-source') and the
Genos (from which we get 'gene' and
'genome,' hence 'Offspring') of David."
Indeed, Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man
-- he is both the Maker and the receiver of David's "genetic"
material. Likewise, "Before Abraham was I AM," and "Now
to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made; he does not say,
'And to seeds,' as of many, but as of one, 'And to your Seed,' who
is Christ."
Bill
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 29,
2006 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
The spirit of anti-Christ
Precisely!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 29,
2006 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
The spirit of anti-Christ
'..I am [the Root and ]
the Offspring of
David..'
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