> [Original Message]
> From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
> Date: 1/30/2006 7:48:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Was Jesus of God's Nature?
>
> I'm not caught up on reading, but I just have to say, Judy, that you are
not
> hearing Bill properly. He did answer your question. Many heresies
sprang
> up and those who wrote in the first few centuries after the Biblical
writers
> addressed these heresies. You personally don't understand this because
you
> are not well read in the church fathers.
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cd: I don't think you are hearing us properly David. WE/I am saying that
Christ did not appear in our heathren state-He appeared in the state we are
after salvation nor before salvation. As a born again believer I have flesh
and blood I can choose to sin-but chose not to-I am a spiritual child of
Abraham due to abdoption from the heathen state-I was changed to become
more Christ like. Jesus did not lower himself to that level to become a
heathen.
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>
> Also, the Biblical writers were not negligent about the relationship of
> Jesus and the incarnation. There is at least as much about that as there
is
> about his Divinity. That is why Christianity divided so much over
exactly
> who Jesus was: God or man. Well... he was BOTH! Duh.
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cd: But there is also much about His divinity also David.We are not saying
he wasn't flesh and blood- you seem to think He reduced himself down to the
lowest state of sin -where we were. Yet he clearly states that Satan had no
claim on Him.
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>
> Everybody is just describing two sides of the same coin and trying to
claim
> that the other side is lying about what the coin actually looks like.
Hold
> a coin up right now, Judy. Describe its face to yourself. Then have
your
> husband describe the tail side. Do this while you both are looking at
the
> same coin. Do you both describe it the same way? No. Why? You are
both
> looking at different sides. That's what you and Bill are doing in this
> conversation. Please TRY to hear what Bill is saying. He is using
Bible.
> Deal with that
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cd: We don't think you guys are clearly/accuritely describing you side of
the coin. When we looked at your side we find you are mistaken -we saw that
your side was cleaner-with more beauty than what you described to us.
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>
> David Miller.
>
>
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