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From: Lance Muir
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:23 PM
Subject: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

 
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Sent: February 07, 2006 12:19
Subject: RE: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

"way out there someplace"--heavens to Betsy! I was about to say the same thing about Judy!
 
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From: Lance Muir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:03 PM
To: Debbie Sawczak
Subject: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

Doncha just luv it? 'Land sakes alive!'
 
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Sent: February 07, 2006 10:43
Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

Land sakes alive!!
Where is this girl at?  She is obviously way out there someplace ...
 
On Tue, 7 Feb 2006 10:04:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: February 07, 2006 10:03
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

WHAAAAT???? How bizarre! I have never heard this line of reasoning before (about imago Dei vs part of Adam--am I understanding him?), even in the most chauvinist of Christian circles. Nor have I ever heard anyone try to say that 'Father' and 'Son' meant that God was actually male.
 
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From: Lance Muir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:09 AM
To: Debbie Sawczak
Subject: Fw: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

 
----- Original Message -----
From: Taylor
Sent: February 07, 2006 08:15
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

Dwight Friesen (Divine Dance...12/20/002) p.3: "God is neither male nor female". 

How can this be as we were created in the image of the Father and women were created from a part of Adam? How can there be Father ,Son,and Holy Ghost when the Father "is neither male nor female"-Your gospel is headed into a strange area John-one that makes the gospel feminine and more acceptable in this modern society.

 

Dean, please post the link to this quotation, as it appears to have been quoted out of context.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Moore
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

 
 
 
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From:
Sent: 2/6/2006 6:16:28 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

 
Actually, Dean,  I have no reason to talk to someone who claims I make Jesus a liar.   You can go straight to if you think that such opens my heart to what you have to say.  
 
Obviously, this moderator thing went to your head.  
 
You deceived me into thinking that we were having a dialogue.  And your deception  was well done.  You fooled me.  But never again.  I have given you more scripture than you can remember but you allow NONE of it to effect your bias. 
 
Be that as it may. 
 
jd
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cd: John, You yourself stated we were preaching different gospels-You said" I am not interested in a hopeless gospel." . I have thought on this all last night and this morning and you are correct-we are preaching different gospels and because of that I cannot invite You or Bill to preach with me.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
 My Gospel can explain-and incorporates-all the verses you sent to me that came from the Bible and yours has to ignore most of the verses I sent to you that came from the Bible. I realize you are going to take this hard but out of caring for your souls I will continue on by saying you do not teach/preach the Christian Gospel. The gospel you preach is a feminine Gospel weakened down to conform to society. Baxter's newsletter stated that God wasn't a male 12/20/002 (see below). The below was printed in the Perichoresis newletter March 2006 p.3.
 

..a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

This next passage is ignored. John -these passages belong togeter to complete the thought. Your Gospel doesn't allow for v.17.

Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

Dwight Friesen (Divine Dance...12/20/002) p.3: "God is neither male nor female". 

How can this be as we were created in the image of the Father and women were created from a part of Adam? How can there be Father ,Son,and Holy Ghost when the Father "is neither male nor female"-Your gospel is headed into a strange area John-one that makes the gospel feminine and more acceptable in this modern society.

cd: Know that I am praying for you guys John.

 

 
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: 2/6/2006 12:25:32 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

You have done two things with this post.  First, you have made it clear that we are no longer discussing anything  --  accusing those who do not agree with you as calling Christ a liar    -----------------     a lie in and of itself!!! 
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cd: John -All I am trying to do is make you think. It is not me you are disagreeing with it is the words Christ spoke. Christ /Bible says one thing you say the opposite-both cannot be correct.To state something other than what is written is to oppose what is written-see beolw. You state no one can lose his salvation-the bible says otherwise-someone is not speaking truth -think about it.
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Secondly,  because of your predilection to works and your view of the gospel, you feel absolutely no need to square your claims with any number of seemingly opposing scripture.  
 
It makes no difference to legalists that they have no message of hope in the offing for those who continue to be addicted to one sin or another.  I am not interested in a hopeless gospel. 
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cd: Well then we will see, in time,if it is hopeless gospeland as you are not interested I retire sir.
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jd
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: 2/6/2006 12:23:52 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Rightousness (jd 2 cd)

Yes.  One can't detract from our salvation and the Other won't !!
 
cd: The why did God say such wrong statements? He said He would 'detract"-Why would Jesus lie me? I need to ask him; " Jesus why did you lie to me and say the things of Rev. 3 and Matt. 25-John , Gary,Bill and Lance told me you were lying".That will be included in my prayer tonight.
 
Rev 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life

Mat 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strewed:

Mat 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I & amp; amp; amp; lt; /FONT>should have received mine own with usury.

Mat 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.

Mat 25:29 For unto everyone that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.

Mat 25:30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 
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isn't it interesting, such fellowship's both human & divine?
 
On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 05:10:25 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Never thought of it from that angle.   An absolutely excellent point. 
 
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..foundational to our eternal security
 
On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 21:12:12 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
fellowship, in Christ, is already eternal, a key doctrinal essential 
 
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:50:51 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Huh.  Apparently I wrote that damn "open letter to Dean" a few hours too soon. 
 
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