[TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller

[Dean Moore]

 

 

 

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From: Kevin Deegan

To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Sent: 3/10/2006 7:33:15 AM

Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Kinder Gentler God would not call names - pagan ?????

Blaine has posted a number of times refering to Astrology.

What do you think of such?

cd: It goes much deeper than that Bro. Kevin-David Miller was actually having Blaine do readings for Him-gave him his birth dated and even comment on how actuate the reading were-have you ever heard of the likes from a man of God? No different then what we saw in front of the Catholic off Bourbon street remember? Seems that some believers won't request God's prediction on the future or even ask Him they have to inquire of spirits.Here is God's take on the matter.

Isa 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

Isa 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to sit before it.

Isa 47:15 Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast labored, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee.

Lev 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

cd: Has David defiled himself ? My suggestion is for repentence to be given-in sackcloth and ashes if need be-Serous matter.

 

PA'GAN, n. [L. paganus, a peasant or countryman, from pagus, a village.] A heathen; a Gentile; an idolater; one who worships false gods. This word was originally applied to the inhabitants of the country, who on the first propagation of the christian religion adhered to the worship of false gods, or refused to receive christianity, after it had been received by the inhabitants of the cities. In like manner, heathen signifies an inhabitant of the heath or woods, and caffer, in Arabic, signifies the inhabitant of a hut or cottage, and one that does not receive the religion of Mohammed. Pagan is used to distinguish one from a Christian and a Mohammedan.

PA'GAN, a. Heathen; heathenish; Gentile; noting a person who worships false gods.

1. Pertaining to the worship of false gods.

Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OK let me chime in I will restate it for Dean

DH's BELIEFS are Pagan!

DAVEH:  OK Kevin....specifically in what way do draw that conclusion?  What is it that you think I believe that qualifies as a pagan belief?  First, you may want to define what you think pagan means so we will have a common starting point.

Kevin Deegan wrote:

"You ..  are a pagan"   is not the same as "Your beliefs are pagan"  

 

For the sake of Lance (IYO)

 

OK let me chime in I will restate it for Dean

DH's BELIEFS are Pagan!

 

So does the BIBLE practice ADHOMS?

AND name names!

 

Sop let me get this straight Paul should NOT have said:

Acts 13 Elymas the sorcerer ...

PAUL SAYS: And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

 

SHOULD BE

And said, O full of all subtilty beliefs and all beliefs of mischief, thou child with beliefs of the devil, thou believing against all righteousness, wilt thou not cease believing to pervert the right ways of the Lord? (what VERSION would this be? )

Since Paul was FULL of the Holy Ghost (IMO VS 9) when he said this does that mean God called Elymas A DEVIL? Is God ADHOM? Did God call him a PERVERT?

Just wonderin...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH:   I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean.  To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom

 

Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an attack on your person?

Seriously; can you expound?            KD

 

 

DH  can make the point but let me chime in here, as well.   "You ..  are a pagan"   is not the same as "Your beliefs are pagan>"  

 

Those who have eyes, let them see, Lord. 

jd

 

 

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From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You DaveH are a Pagan.
DAVEH:   ; I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean.  To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom

 

Why is attacking your genuinely held beliefs an attack on your person?

Seriously; can you expound?

Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I called you a Mormon-to which you do not deny-You called me a Christian to wit I did not deny. By doing so you separated the two-and as receiving the first (Mormon) and tagging me with the second(Christian) you have clearly showed yourself to be non Christian

DAVEH:   What kind of convoluted logic is that, Judge Dean???  Does any other TTer who understands what Dean said above, agree with his explanation?

You DaveH are a Pagan.

DAVEH:   I respectfully disagree, Judge Dean.  To me, your above comment is a blatant ad-hom, and I will request Judge Moore take the appropriate action if you do not wish to apologize.

he fact that you do not follow the teaching of Jesus Christ

DAVEH:  Is that coming from Judge Dean, or Judge Moore?

Get over it the truth is not an Ad. Homein attack

DAVEH:  Really?!?!?!?!   Did you just make a new TT rule, Judge Moore?  Or was that Judge Dean expressing his unfounded wishes?

state a petition to impeach me

DAVEH:   Seems to me that you are doing a good job of it on your own.

I am not Judge Dean

DAVEH:  Then am I to assume that every t ime you pass judgment, you are speaking as Judge Moore?

by your standards isn't that Ad. Homein attacking

DAVEH:  ???   I thought we were playing the game by your standards, Judge Dean!   Hence.....Get over it the truth is not an Ad. Homein attack according to you.

I will have to g o to the Moderator

DAVEH:   I've not had much luck with him, but I suspect he will listen to you.

Are you implyin g Dean called you such NAMES?

DAVEH:    I'll let Judge Dean answer that, Kevin..........I say/demand again " Get the "Church of Jesus Christ" name off your temple Pagan!!!

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