Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad

[Lance Muir]

Were someone to retrieve all of the 'Shields family' posts then, place them alongside the knpraise' posts with an eye to genuine content.........case closed!  ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 08:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad Yet, how much time did you spend doing the same to others  !!??   Give me a break.   jd   -------------- Original message -------------- From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gnats have injured my ego more than you and yours are capable of doing. Too > bad your objectives on TT are thwarted. iz > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:39 AM > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > > Correction then, Iz: You're soooooooooo shallow. (That's gwine reach me.) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: March 23, 2006 06:36 > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > > > > I'm just trying to stay at a level that can reach you, Lance. :-) iz > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 2:13 PM > > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > > 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > > > > You're soooooooooo deep, Iz. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: March 22, 2006 14:22 > > Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > > 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > > > > > >> Baloney. > >> > >> - ----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir > >> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:04 AM > >> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > >> 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > >> > >> Even at this late date such a response is unworthy of you. Israel, on > >> some > >> occasions (see it's Lebanese incursion), OPPRESSES! > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: > >> Sent: March 21, 2006 21:49 > >> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: Purim > >> 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > >> > >> > > ;>> But Israel oppresses its enemies by EXISTING!!! (Poor sissies!) iz > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan > >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:06 PM > >>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: > >>> Purim > >>> 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > >>> > >>> Lance says Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has > >>> adopted the role of oppressor. > >>> > >>> ROTFL > >>> That is Ludicrous on the face of it. > >>> Where did you pick this whopper up? > >>> > >>> Perhaps you need a Geography lesson! > >>> http://www.masada2000.org/ geography.html > >>> Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, > >>> SURROUNDED by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 TIMES her > >>> size, 60 TIMES her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab > >>> propagandists call Israel "expansionist!" And how dare anyone believe > >>> them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the > >>> lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of > >>> 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 > >>> million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of > >>> the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims > >>> worldwide? > >>> > >>> I guess DAVID OPPRESSED GOLIATH too!!!!!!!! > >>> Israel Oppressing the Arabs is like the UN call for disarmament of > >>> David before he meets Goliath! > >>> LOL > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- Lance Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >>> > >>>> Lance chimes in: Just like you and I, Linda, John has gone on the odd > >>>> 'rant'. but, my goodness, JOHN IS IN NO WAY ANTI-SEMITIC! Sadly, > >>>> Israel, many times oppressed and, often by believers, has adopted the > >>>> role of oppressor.This is WHO WE ARE WHEN IN POWER. > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>>> Sent: March 21, 2006 12:11 > >>>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel Lapin: > >>>> Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> There is little point in ta lking with someone who knows me better > >>>> than I know me. Such arrogant surmising is the product of the kind > >>>> of narrowness that I disregard. > >>>> > >>>> jd > >>>> > >>>> -------------- Original message -------------- > >>>> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >>>> Jd, I never said the Jews will be restored Outside of the church; > >>>> they will be become believers. You say you don't dislike Jews more > >>>> than any other unbelievers. It is obvious to me that you do. Your > >>>> stereotypes and slurs are very revealing. Izzy > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Romans 11 > >>>> Israel Is Not Cast Away > >>>> 1I say then, God has not (A)rejected His people, has He? (B)May < BR>> >>>> it never be! For (C)I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, > >>>> of the tribe of Benjamin. > >>>> > >>>> 2God (D)has not rejected His people whom He (E)foreknew (F)Or do > >>>> you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how > >>>> he pleads with God against Israel? > >>>> > >>>> 3"Lord, (G)THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN > >>>> YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE." > >>>> > >>>> 4But what is the divine response to him? "(H)I HAVE KEPT for > >>>> Myself SEVEN THOUSAND MEN WHO HAVE NOT BOWED THE KNEE TO BAAL." > >>>> > >>>> 5In the same way then, there has also come to be at the present > >>>> time (I)a remnant according to God's gracious choice.. > >>>&g t; > >>>> 6But (J)if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of > >>>> works, otherwise grace is no longer grace. > >>>> > >>>> 7What then? What (K)Israel is seeking, it has not obtained, but > >>>> those who were chosen obtained it, and the rest were (L)hardened; > >>>> > >>>> 8just as it is written, > >>>> "(M)GOD GAVE THEM A SPIRIT OF STUPOR, > >>>> EYES TO SEE NOT AND EARS TO HEAR NOT, > >>>> DOWN TO THIS VERY DAY." > >>>> > >>>> 9And David says, > >>>> "(N)LET THEIR TABLE BECOME A SNARE AND A TRAP, > >>>> AND A STUMBLING BLOCK AND A RETRIBUTION TO THEM. > >>>> 10"(O)LET THEIR EYES BE DARKENED TO SEE NOT, > >>>> AND BEND THEIR BACKS FOREVER." > >>>> > >>>> 11(P)I say then, they did not s tumble so as to fall, did they? > >>>> (Q)May it never be! But by their transgression (R)salvation has come > >>>> to the Gentiles, to (S)make them jealous. > >>>> > >>>> 12Now if their transgression is riches for the world and their > >>>> failure is riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their > >>>> (T)fulfillment be! > >>>> > >>>> 13But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Inasmuch then as > >>>> (U)I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, > >>>> > >>>> 14if somehow I might (V)move to jealousy (W)my fellow countrymen > >>>> and (X)save some of them. > >>>> > >>>> 15For if their rejection is the (Y)reconciliation of the world, > >>>> what will their acceptance be but (Z)life from the dead? > >>>> > >> ;>> 16If the (AA)first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and > >>>> if the root is holy, the branches are too. > >>>> > >>>> 17But if some of the (AB)branches were broken off, and (AC)you, > >>>> being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker > >>>> with them of the rich root of the olive tree, > >>>> > >>>> 18do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are > >>>> arrogant, remember that (AD)it is not you who supports the root, but > >>>> the root supports you. > >>>> > >>>> 19(AE)You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I > >>>> might be grafted in." > >>>> > >>>> 20Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you > >>>> (AF)stand by your faith (AG)Do not be conceited, but fear; > ; >>>> > >>>> 21for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not > >>>> spare you, either. > >>>> > >>>> 22Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who > >>>> fell, severity, but to you, God's (AH)kindness, (AI)if you continue > >>>> in His kindness; otherwise you also (AJ)will be cut off. > >>>> > >>>> 23And they also, (AK)if they do not continue in their unbelief, > >>>> will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. > >>>> > >>>> 24For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive > >>>> tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive > >>>> tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be > >>>> grafted into their own olive tree? > >>>> > >>>& gt; 25For (AL)I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this > >>>> (AM)mystery--so that you will not be (AN)wise in your own > >>>> estimation--that a partial (AO)hardening has happened to Israel until > >>>> the (AP)fullness of the Gentiles has come in; > >>>> > >>>> 26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written, > >>>> "(AQ)THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION, > >>>> HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB." > >>>> 27"(AR)THIS IS MY COVENANT WITH THEM, > >>>> (AS)WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS." > >>>> > >>>> 28From the standpoint of the gospel they are (AT)enemies for > >>>> your sake, but from the standpoint of God's choice they are beloved > >>>> for (AU)the sake of the fathers; > >>>> > >>>> 29for the gifts and the (AV)calling of God (AW)are irrevocable. > >>>> > >>>> 30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have > >>>> been shown mercy because of their disobedience, > >>>> > >>>> 31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the > >>>> mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. > >>>> > >>>> 32For (AX)God has shut up all in disobedience so that He may > >>>> show mercy to all. > >>>> > >>>> 33Oh, the depth of (AY)the riches both of the (AZ)wisdom and > >>>> knowledge of God! (BA)How unsearchable are His judgments and > >>>> unfathomable His ways! > >>>> > >>>> 34For (BB)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS > >>>> COUNSELOR? > >>>> > >>>> 35Or (BC)WHO HAS FIRST GIVEN TO H IM THAT IT MIGHT BE PAID BACK > >>>> TO HIM AGAIN? > >>>> > >>>> 36For (BD)from Him and through Him and to Him are all things > >>>> (BE)To Him be the glory forever. Amen. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:20 PM > >>>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > >>>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel > >>& gt;> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> First , I am not a dispensationalist -- never have been and > >>>> very likely never will be. It is an American theological invention. > >>>> a man named Darby being its first major proponent, and Scolfield > >>>> along with Dallas Theological Seminary being the back bone of its > >>>> critical acclaim. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Secondly, an unregenerated Jew is no different than an > >>>> unregenerated Floridian. > >>>> > >>>> I give no honor to any race of people for the simple reason that > >>>> such was never the intention of God -- never. Jews get no credit > >>>> from me for the Messiah -- they rejected Him then, killed him, > >>>> came into the church thinking that the Church was to play a role in > >>>> establishing them as the Kingdom of God upon this earth - and left > >>>> the church almost to the man in the years following the fall of their > >>>> holy city. There is more blasphemy on Jewish sites than perhaps the > >>>> sites of any other world religion. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> That God is going to reestablish the Jewish people outside the > >>>> blessings of the Church of Jesus Christ is simply not a biblical > >>>> conclusion. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> And the main point , for me, that you skim over, is the fact that > >>>> I do not hate the Jew. Israel was created by agreements of the > >>>> young United Nations. Their new land was nothing like what it is > >>>> today. And the hatred of Palestinians goes beyond that which is > >>>> reasonable or even human, at times. The surrounding Muslim/Arab > >>>> world's determination to destroy Isreal without the possibility of > >>>> compromise is disgustingly stupid to me Where, at one time, I had > >>>> some regard for the Muslim religion , today, I have none. I think > >>>> it is violent at its core, a faith built upon a hatred for all who > >>>> are not Muslim. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> But I have little regard for Judaism, as well. A very > >>>> materialistic people, fully antagonistic to the Living Christ in > >>>> terms of matters of faith and practice. Biblically speaking, > >>>> Judaism reached full term in Jesus Christ. It is not a siste r > >>>> religion. Where some consider the Old Testament as the history of > >>>> the Jewish people, I really view it as the history of the Church. > >>>> God's chosen are to be found within the body of Christ. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> jd > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -------------- Original message -------------- > >>>> From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> > >>>> Jd, there are not yet many Jews who know their Messiah, as you > >>>> know. Soon there will be. What bewilders me is why you rarely miss > >>>> a chance to take a shot at Jews, yet not the mormons or the RCC who > >>>> are true apostates. They claim to serve Jesus and yet are > >>>> anti-Christs preaching a different Je sus and a different gospel. The > >>>> Jews at least are honest about their stance on Jesus. I have a > >>>> special place in my heart for Jews because my Savior is a Jew, > >>>> because the Father says they are His chosen people, and because one > >>>> day Jesus will again restore Israel into His kingdom. Why doesn't > >>>> that have any meaning for you? izzy > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:23 PM > >>>> To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; Truth [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] A Special Message from Rabbi Daniel > >>>> Lapin: Purim 2006-Not All Authority is Bad > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Here is what I said, Linda.: "Do you know of any orthodox Jews > >>>> who do not deny the Christ? And why does that not have any meaning > >>>> to you? I will give my money to the needy, thank you very much. " > >>>> There in not one hateful word in that comment -- not one. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> You can choose to continue to run your mouth or maybe, just > >>>> maybe, you can stop with your dedicated effort to make me look as > >>>> bad as possible and actually answer the above question. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> ;>> I am for US aid to Israel. I am not for spending one penny > >>>> from church coffers. but go ahead and blast the RCC or those on this > >>>> forum who are dedicated followers of Christ and kiss up to those who > >>>> deny the Lord you claim to serve. > >>>> > >>>> I expect such conduct from you. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> jd > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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