See the RED for real "substance" encoding

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> Make that 5 posts.  
> 
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> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> You JD have rejected substance unless conformed to your liking and by
> then it is no longer substance but mixture.
> So what would be the point??
> 
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:33:51 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I rest my case !!  And a fourth post (of the morning) that is
> absolutely content free   ------------   talk about "substance abuse
> !!"  that is what goes on in your your posts.  
> 
> jd
> 
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> Big problem JD; the "biblical message" is something other than what
> you have been proffering on TT so far
> So why not just admit that you counsel using your own theology and
> that the results belong to you also?.   
> 
> jt: How about a statement of TRUTH communicated by the author of
> TRUTH then?   
> 
> JD: That is exactly what I am saying.  I counsel others as time
> permits.  I use the biblical message in my work.  That does not mean
> the Bible is a counseling manual !!  Neither is it a science book.  
> But if you don't get what I am saying in the above,  just move on.  
> It does not appear that you do get what I have said.   
> 
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:05:59 +0000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> What do I believe about Genesis?   Did you read any of my posts?   
> Science has no answers to our confusion, our bondage, our need for
> community and   an   innate longing     to live beyond what we see. 
> As soon as we turn Genesis into a statement of science,  we lessen
> its value to the human spirit.   
> 
> How about a statement of TRUTH communicated by the author of TRUTH
> then?   That is exactly what I am saying.  I counsel others as time
> permits.  I use the biblical message in my work.  That does not mean
> the Bible is a counseling manual !!  Neither is it a science book.  
> But if you don't get what I am saying in the above,  just move on.  
> It does not appear that you do get what I have said.    
> 
> What do I get from reading those first three chapters?   That God is
> in control  --  not that He is SOMEHOW in control  -  but that He is
> IN FACT in control.   He is my creator.   I am in His image.   
> 
> He is your Creator but you are not in His image unless you have been
> totally conformed to the image of 
> Christ already - in fact, not in theory only.  Your attitude to His
> Law would belie that.   Adam and Eve were not created with the nature
> of Christ as their mainstay !!   Just JudySpeak and nothing more.  
> 
> And even when I fall, He continues to hover over and round me.   It
> tells me that I was created for others  --  my wife, my children and
> the world in which I live. 
> 
> The first three chapters of Genesis tells you all of the above? 
> Where?
> Take your Bible, open it to the first pages of Genesis, lean over
> until your nose is nearly touching those pages and BAM !!!,  YOU WILL
> SEE IT.    
> 
> It tells me I am responsible for much of my actions.   Work is a
> curse because I must be responsible !!  
> 
> Newsflash!!  You are responsible for ALL of your thoughts as well as
> your actions.    No kidding.  
> 
>  I and my wife are one because  God   thought this to be the case
> from the beginning.   and REST       has as much a place in the
> coming and goings of man as work.   That's what I get out of this
> Genesis account.  While some of you only see a debate !!!! 
> 
> You and your wife are one flesh; the Lord would like to be One spirit
> with you JD  Done deal, Judge Judy .....   beginning many years ago. 
> 
> 
> Do you know the best way of dealing with a child  - in my case an
> older son  -- who comes home announcing that he no longer believes in
> the bible??!!  IGNORE that comment and continue to be a witness ,
> using, at times, the very book that he rejects.  DO NOT, repeat, DO
> NOT challenge him/her to a debate.  You will not win, if your version
> of :winning" is to bring that child to say "Iwas wrong, Dad, and you
> were right again."   He won't do it.   But if you ignore the
> challenge,  and give biblical presentations that make sense to the
> way he is living his life  --  the objection vanishes into thin air. 
> Theory?   Nope.   It worked on both of my older boys  -  the lawyer
> and the doctor.   But I digress with some free advice.  
> 
> The long and short of the lesson is this  --  make the Bible THE
> battle ground and you will lose the war  !!!    Present the Bible as
> something that offers life in the Spirit of God in the Christ of God
> and you have a winner.  
> 
> 
> jd


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