Hi,

I created an entry [0] in the Eclipse bugzilla with the proposal.
Your comments are welcome.

Best regards

Stéphane Drapeau
Obeo

[0]: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=225956

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Stéphane Drapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Haleh, Raymond,
>
> Thank you for your answers.
>
> Haleh, you're right. I make no distinction between tools for SCA
> developers and tools for SCA users. The goal of the project is to develop
> tools to help users of the SCA technology. I will modify my sentence.
>
> Stéphane Drapeau
> Obeo
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 6:21 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Stephan,
> >
> > This looks good since it looks like tools for SCA will get more focus :)
> > I have a question.
> >
> > You mention "the goals of the new sub-project are to develop a set of
> > tools for SCA developers and SCA users".
> >
> > What is the difference between SCA developer and SCA user in this
> > context?
> >
> > Haleh
> >
> > On 4/2/08, Stéphane Drapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jean-Sebastien, Haleh, all,
> > >
> > > The proposal is a 3 pages document describing the scope/intent of the
> > > proposed project.
> > >
> > > The outline is:
> > > 1. Introduction: the proposition of the transformation of the STP/SCA
> > > component into a sub-project named SCA Tools under the top level
> > project
> > > STP.
> > > 2. Background: presentation of STP + presentation of the existing
> > STP/SCA
> > > component.
> > > 3. Description: the goals of the new sub-project are to develop a set
> > of
> > > tools for SCA developers and SCA users. Another goal is also to link
> > this
> > > sub-project with other components of STP (Service Creation, Policy
> > Editor)
> > > 4. Proposed components: SCA Domain Model (SCA meta model), SCA
> > Composite
> > > Designer, SCA Composite Editors (tree, xml and form), SCA Integration
> > > (integration with other STP components)
> > > 5. Relationship with Other Eclipse Projects: STP, EMF, GMF, M2M, ...
> > > 6. Organization: this sub-project will take place under the top level
> > > project STP.
> > > 7. A list of proposed initial committers.
> > > 8. Code Contribution: the Eclipse STP/SCA component will be the
> > initial
> > > code.
> > > 9. Interested parties: this section lists companies and communities
> > that
> > > support the creation of the project. They don't take other
> > engagements.
> > > 10. Tentative Plan for 2008 and 2009.
> > >
> > > Our goal is to identify formally the scope of the tools that we
> > develop
> > > around SCA. The new status will provide some advantages.
> > > - I think that the SCA tools will be more visible in the Eclipse
> > community
> > > if we are identified as a sub-project.
> > > - From the users point of view, it will not change anything.
> > > - Concerning us, we should be more formal: clear roadmap, new features
> > > described/discussed first in bugzilla, ...
> > > - It will also present some advantages for Obeo by becoming a
> > sub-project
> > > leader.
> > >
> > > In the near future all STP components will become STP sub-projects. To
> > > summarize, all of this is purely administrative.
> > > I will send you the proposal document ASAP.
> > > If you have any questions, don't hesitate.
> > >
> > > Haleh, yesterday I sent you more information about the SCA Composite
> > > Designer on the thread named "[Website] - Tooling for Java SCA". You
> > can
> > > add
> > > it on the web page. Tell me if you need more/different information.
> > > My post describes what version of Tuscany can be used. I also
> > introduce a
> > > tutorial that I made. This tutorial is based on the SCA designer and
> > > Tuscany
> > > 1.1.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Stéphane Drapeau
> > > Obeo
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:05 AM, haleh mahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Stephane,
> > > >
> > > > Welcome to Tuscany. How will changing the status of STP SCA from a
> > > > component
> > > > to a sub project change its future development and focus?
> > > >
> > > > Tuscany community had asked about tools for SCA and  because of that
> > I
> > > > recently added a website page [1] to collect more information about
> > > > available open source tools. I added a link to STP there.  It would
> > be
> > > > great
> > > > if you could provide more content about what is available and what
> > > version
> > > > of Tuscany it works with.
> > > >
> > > > [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/java-sca-tools.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Haleh
> > > >
> > > > On 4/1/08, Jean-Sebastien Delfino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Stéphane Drapeau wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm Stéphane Drapeau from Obeo. I work on tools for SCA and I
> > lead
> > > the
> > > > > > Eclipse SCA component which is a component of the STP project
> > [1].
> > > > > > Currently, I'm writing a proposal to change the status of the
> > STP
> > > SCA
> > > > *
> > > > > > component* to STP/SCA Tools *sub project*.
> > > > > > I would like know if I can refer Tuscany community as interested
> > > party
> > > > > of
> > > > > > our proposal. It's purely administrative.
> > > > > > Jean Sebastien told me that the Tuscany community must vote on
> > this
> > > > > issue.
> > > > > > So the discussion is open ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks very much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stéphane Drapeau
> > > > > > Obeo
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]: http://www.eclipse.org/stp/sca/index.php
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Stephane,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for posting here, it'll enable the whole Tuscany community
> > to
> > > get
> > > > > involved in the discussion around your SCA editor proposal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you tell us a bit more about the proposal? do you have an
> > outline?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also can you help us understand what it means to be listed under
> > > > > "interested parties" in such a proposal?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any questions or thoughts from others on the list?
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jean-Sebastien
> > > > >
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