Hum i understand your frustration. however, whatever you use it is ok, just don't mix them at the same time.
either use grid or use pack or use place grid is best for me else try some tricks here and there like try adding transparent images in the grid manager use PIL module by specifying the image sizes you place the frame where you want a tip: UI design is always a bit frustrating, even in Android coding, but some tricks help like the image trick i learnt there . . . kind of hack or work around. Coding is not straight forward but authors of languages try as much as possible to cover the needs of users. we just have to extend sometimes somewhere Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer, Mauritius abdurrahmaanjanhangeer.wordpress.com _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor