> Ad hominem comments will get your mail filtered, especially when you're > talking about my work ;-)
Actually, it was an attack on the idea (e.g., referring to it as a joke), so it was unintentional if you took it as ad hominem. :-) But I won't suggest or submit to argumentum ad verecundiam, either. :-) > you will configure the use of the messaging menu from the applications themselves > that means that if you want Evolution not to use it, you need to fire up > evolution and > tell it not to do so. > I don't use Evolution either, but [I] can reasonably be expected to run it as > part of configuring Ubuntu's behaviour. I'm not so sure about those points. * How are users supposed to know, a priori, that in order to remove item A from program B, they need to change program A? Mind you, I'm not a fan of the Gnome Main Menu Editor, either. I would prefer to see *direct* interaction with the menus. * Once knowing that you have to configure program A, how MUCH configuration should you have to do to simply disable it? It should be dead simple, not "first tell me all about you, then I'll let you turn off a checkbox." This last part isn't really Evolution's fault. It was written on the assumption that if you run it, you want to use it; and if you want to use it, you need an account. Now we have the new concept of, I am running it to get rid of it. > we have a different approach in Ubuntu. We actively make choices on behalf of > our users, > presenting them with an environment that is ready to go. The latter is, generally, good. We do want Ubuntu for Granny. > we ask [expert users] to go the extra mile to get the environment to > their satisfaction But don't always provide the necessary documentation, nor do I believe that it has been said that the workarounds (e.g., the gconf setting for the update manager) will be preserved in future versions. If Ubuntu is going to make those decisions, and still wants to allow users -- let's not require them to be EXPERTS -- to diverge from the default choices, there should be a document that describes the decisions made and how to configure the system otherwise. -- Indicator applet Always shows icon https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/410220 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs