I meant here this particular situation. I wanted to issue a warning not to follow in Mandriva's footsteps regarding the community handling. I read at phoronix that the ASPM bug got "solved" with a patch for an entirely different problem... I see the first symptoms of using own power to influence the community against its will. This is hazardous. It is good that you, mr Mark, participate in community discussion. Unfortunately, the community is somehow poisoned. There is a whole group of people who started seeing Ubuntu as a system that is different from other Linux distributions. Can you imagine Canonical, 2 or 3 years back, asking the community how to implement Unity? Imagine the situation, where having developed a vision, it is showed to the community BEFORE a single line of code is written. And a discussion starts. I am sure there would be a strong support for Unity. No poisonous comments about the alpha / beta quality of the code. Have you ever considered to implement Unity using the KDE frameworks? Look at how fast and efficiently plasma Active was developed. In my opinion, this is the single downside of Unity, from which many of the other problems stem: the shell was developed from scratch. Why were you so "arrogant" to start another project from scratch, when you had all tools ready in hands of another community? This is the arrogance I see. Every other project is made from scratch, when it could have been done with existing, but "competitive" solutions. Sometives I almost cry over this situation. I love Ubuntu, but I love KDE more. So I am torn between openSUSE, Mandriva and Ubuntu. Each of those distributions has something very good which no other has. However, Mandriva will keep its newest powerpack secret until the unknown to the community release date. OpenSUSE lacks the desktop polish. And Ubuntu. Ubuntu is not focused on KDE. I wanted to use KDE PIM software in Unity environment but plasma - unity conflicts emerged. I can't imagine, how Unity managed to steal focus from the KDE applications but it did so. I am close to dedicating a lot of my future time to create the Unity plasma shell once I acquire the development skills. But when I see a "won't fix" like here I start to doubt if my work would be ever thanked for. And yes - I read you post about workers and talkers. Sometimes an influential talker emerges. Hitler for example. He was a talker. Yet he managed to have something done without moving a finger himself. So it is not right to downplay people who talk just because they do not "work". I personally, I am getting tired of this leadership - community struggle. KDE manages just fine without strong single-entity leadership. What I see is that still so many organizations try to control something that is not controllable. But I can do nothing as I have no power myself... I can only talk.
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