Well this “bug report” has turned somewhat philosophical, again due the nature of the times quite naturally! It’s useful to have these comments on the public record as far as I’m concerned, so I’m actually glad that the discussion here on this “bug report” is taking place. So I am changing the name of the bug report to reflect this also includes general discussion about the “SavOS” project altogether.
Given the clear interest in FFmpeg 5.0 and given that two kind people (not specifically connected with this bug report) have made quite honourable donations just this morning (you know who you are and thank you!), being enough to cover at least a few hours of my work, I will simply do the FFmpeg 5.0 rebuilds against libx264-164 for everyone! OK?! It just hasn’t been a priority for me of late to do the rebuilds. This is due me using the FFmpeg build from ppa:savoury1/ffmpeg-git in any case, though it does also need to be rebuilt against libx264-164 as well. But I already have the older libx264-163 installed on my system so it being missing from the FFmpeg 5 related PPAs at this time hasn’t mattered to me personally. <non-bug-topic title=“General discussion about the SavOS project for the public record”> @henczati – Thanks for your feedback and also for your sympathy, and I am sorry to hear of both your own lack of income for some time, as well as the immediate and difficult effects of the neighbouring conflict relative to your own situation and survival. It is certainly even affecting everyone on Earth, as petrol prices are up 30%+ in my own area in only about three weeks, as well as many staple food items being up by at least the same (30%+) compared just one year ago. You seem to be understanding the nature of this project based on your comments. A critical idea is to help people keep on running perfectly good operating systems on perfectly good hardware, even if such OS and HW is now several (or even many!) years old. This has always been a passion of mine in my 30+ years of providing professional I.T. support to people, and is in many ways exactly in contract to the general trend of the industry as a whole (it never made me that popular with former colleagues!). To me it makes zero sense at all to force people to upgrade their entire OS just to get new multimedia or office productivity or security software, or Qt stack, or whatever. In fact, I personally loathe this “forced upgrade” mentality that is fully rampant in the I.T. industry in the recent years and for even decades in fact. It is to me (and based on hard scientific facts, beyond my own “opinions”) the absolute anti- thesis of “sustainable” and “resource conscious”. Consider the literal electricity (and the finite planetary resources of physical fuel required to provide such), as well as the massive amount of human “resources” relative the astronomical tally of human work-hours is (again, to me) largely “wasted” on what are often useless and in many situations regressive “upgrades” of computers, both software-wise and hardware-wise. My own two systems that all the building is done on would no doubt even be considered "vintage" now, with one circa early 2012 and the other circa mid-2013! Yet they are power-houses that work brilliantly, and the base of them both is STILL the good ’ol Xenial (plus ALL relevant PPAs at my Launchpad site) and they are as rock solid as any computer systems I’ve ever run. This is coming from a former high-level server engineer of corporate systems, who used to architect, purchase, and build from scratch entire web farms serving millions upon millions of hits per day (some years ago now, yes, but that’s my background pre-Linux in the past five or so years), for some very big global corporations with well-known brand names (not worth mentioning). Yet even as someone with over 30 years professional experience providing high-level systems support I do my absolute best to never waste my own money, time, and the even more of the planet’s finite resources on frequent trivial upgrades to my hardware or software, as I have better things to do (and better for the planet too). In response to your query about sharing the burden (open source being all about teamwork and all), until recently (and for at least many months, maybe a year and more) the main page of my Launchpad site did make one reference to the desire for a team to help with this work, which was only changed in late January 2022 when survival had to become the tantamount concern for me moving forwards. You can see the exact words that were on the main page here (the words quoted next are found just prior to the long table listing highlights of all the software): https://web.archive.org/web/20220126052554/https://launchpad.net/~savoury1 “This site represents a very large effort of time and energy by one person (so far, next step is for a team!) so all contributions make a difference.” An issue and one could say limitation with me professionally (and personally) is a lack of both experience and/or time/attention/interest on doing better marketing. My position on that is simple: if what I’m doing is not of a super high quality and good enough to sell itself to anyone who might come across it, then what am I selling? This ethos however is of course a bit restrictive, even if (to me) fully ethical, in a world driven mad by constant flashing ads and the like. It’s an area that I struggle with, as I’m saying. So a critical aspect of this whole project would be to finally manifest some level of website at https://savos.tech which has sat dormant for two years since I purchased the domain name for this work. Although I have built high-end web-server farms previously, and then maintained them as a server engineer, I have done very little actual website creation (only a couple of blog type photo sites, that kind of thing) and I don’t have a strong interest in it due my focus on the systems side of things. Of course I know how to read and code HTML, and had to do some basic bug-fixing of such during “systems emergencies” over the years when the web devs were not immediately available in a crisis. But it’s just that I’ve never got around to doing my own site for this project yet, always just keeping on pushing out more packages and more updates with my available time for the good of the user base! So anyone out there who might see this “bug report” and be reading this more general discussion who: a) likes and uses and supports this project; b) wants it to continue; c) has good experience with website development; and d) would be happy to help with such creation of a good website, please do contact me! To improve the marketing would make a distinct difference, but due me being a "one man team" so far and mainly still always focusing on just doing updates, I’ve never done much on the marketing as I am explaining. In terms of team effort, of course putting ALL of the Debian/Ubuntu packaging from my own build systems on to Github (or similar) would be necessary. Arch Linux has all their packaging on Github and it is a simple and workable system as far as I’m concerned, and I refer to their packaging frequently when their packages are newer or built in what could be described as a “fuller” or “better” way than the Debian/Ubuntu equivalents. Then there would also be full public record of exactly what packaging is being used to build the binaries, with people (including me) naturally liking that so everyone knows for sure that nothing untoward, buggy, or even malicious is being “put into the mix”. This can of course be confirmed on a package-by-package basis anyhow, by downloading any/all distinct *.debian.* tarballs such as via the .dsc downloads from the PPAs, as is required for properly published free and open source software in all cases (not just Debian/Ubuntu). So all of these matters have been bouncing around in my consideration about the project for actually more than two years as a matter of fact! Meanwhile I’ve just kept on with building and building the whole thing. Yet it’s all now at a point of maturity in terms of the sum-total of all available packages and the possibilities of significant cohesive upgrades across an entire “older” system that it is most certainly time to progress to the next level, or for it to fade away if I can’t even get enough income from it to survive! Regardless of solo effort or team, at least a sufficient percentage of the users of the project DO need to support the work, just as with any other notable projects like Linux Mint (Ubuntu of course has a well known corporation backing them). Without question the Linux Mint devs depend on the donations (now quite respectable amounts) each and every month to keep going. The Linux Mint blog gives a quite detailed statement regularly (monthly?) about who donated, the total amount received, and so on. So Linux Mint is world-renowned project and has a good flow of such support, due millions of users by now for sure. Whereas this project SavOS (based on the first three letters of my own name, evidently) is just “starting out” (even though there has been 2.5 years getting it to this point, a consistent effort on my part as I do truly want it to flourish, and to serve the needs of a greater and greater number of people who for whatever reasons like and choose to run older hardware and/or operating system versions than the “latest” and often not “greatest”). That’s a good amount of candid commentary from the creator of the project, myself, for the public record. It’s not that I’m ever “giving up” and I’m always ready to continue and do even more. But this is dependent on the a percentage of the community of the people who are using the software that I’ve been uploading (and who DO have the ability to do so) being willing to provide more real actual donation-level support in a regular fashion such that I CAN keep doing this work regularly, and don’t have to go and get some other silly and meaningless (to me) “day job” just to eat! ~Rob </non-bug-topic> ** Summary changed: - ffmpeg: from ppa:savoury1/ffmpeg5 on Bionic is uninstallable using instructions (libx264-163 unavailable) + ffmpeg: FFmpeg 5.0 (ppa:savoury1/ffmpeg5) uninstallable -- plus general SavOS discussion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1965181 Title: ffmpeg: FFmpeg 5.0 (ppa:savoury1/ffmpeg5) uninstallable -- plus general SavOS discussion To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/savos/+bug/1965181/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
