On 6/22/07, Rusty Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 15:07 -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > On Wednesday 20 June 2007 11:26:05 Mathias Uebelacker wrote:
> > > wiki.ubuntu ist a good place but whats with a good structure?
> <big snip>
> >
> > Just trying to understand the goals of the project.  The Q1 would run 
> > regular
> > Ubuntu just fine.  (Xubuntu perhaps better) so why a special project for
> > this.  It's a standard PIII Celeron.  with  512MB ram and a 40GB hdd...
>
> It's all about getting a device with a similar form factor to enable
> application framework and application development.  The samsung screen
> is a bit big, but not too big, and you have a lot of the other elements
> (like a touchscreen) that allow us to start working on this stack and
> enable some creative elements before better suited hardware arrives.
>
> BTW, even with target hardware, you will have (relative to traditional
> mobile devices) loads of resources so you absolutely can run normal
> ubuntu.  The problem is that a normal full desktop is horribly unusable
> for this kind of form factor... not because the device will run too
> slow, but that the usage model for full desktop makes all kinds of
> assumptions that kill the experience on a small form factor device.

Makes perfect sense. BTW, are you planning to investigate/use
hildon-widgets (hildon-1 library) too? What's the preferred method of
developing applications for your platform?

It's a long discussion we carried on several times here at nokia.
Mobile applications need a different UI. Running desktop applications
on a small screen, even if possible technically, doesn't make much
sense. Some interaction methods don't make much sense on the mobile
and vice versa.

I think it's logically impossible to have a UI system that
automagically scales up and down (I don't mean here graphical scaling
but rather functionality scaling). Therefore, a better bet is to write
applications in such a way, that the engine is cleanly separated from
the UI (which can have many variants). Unfortunately, gtk-apps
development model doesn't encourage this kind of separation, and with
most applications the UI-flow code is heavily mixed up with the core
application logic code.

Anyways, coming back to my original question -- are you planning to
adopt gtk + hildon widgets as the base development toolkit?

>
> I tried using a full GNOME desktop on the original Samsung Q1.  At best
> it was a painful experience.
>
>     --rusty
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