Hi Bob,

Curry is talking about the costs/T&Cs for Create. I confess I barely paid attention to that when it was discussed (on the uselist maybe around the summer of 2024???), because I decided it didn't affect me (*).  I do remember there was a lot of concern that the pricing models looked cumbersome, or had lots of overhead, or .... or just weren't easy to understand or allow for.

There is a summary at livecode.com/pricing - it talks about per-seat costs (for both developers and users) - which would appear to apply to in-house tools, including those developed by single-person developers contracted to an organisation)  - or different terms for apps for sale.

(*) as a hobbyist who will never sell an app, and only do (at most) very limited distribution as a free app for charity or other local organisations  - it just didn't look like I would be affected, so I didn't follow the discussion properly.

But the bottom line is (as usual) Livecode is a small flexible company that wants you to succeed - so contact them for fuller, custom, discussion if the standard pricing model seems unworkable.

Alex.



On 10/12/2025 21:07, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
What are the new terms?

Bob S


On Dec 10, 2025, at 9:09 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Alex:

A bit of a rant
even bigger problem - the new terms.
ugly outcomes await unless those are fixed.

i cannot accept them as is to upgrade.
also no longer viewable?

Best wishes,

Curry K.

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