For a row cache of 1,650,000:

16 byte token
300 byte row key ? 
and row data ? 
multiply by a java fudge factor or 5 or 10. 

Trying delete the saved cache and restarting.

Cheers
 


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Aaron Morton
Freelance Cassandra Developer
New Zealand

@aaronmorton
http://www.thelastpickle.com

On 15/11/2012, at 8:20 PM, Wz1975 <wz1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Before shut down,  you saw rowcache has 500m, 1.6m rows,  each row average 
> 300B, so 700k row should be a little over 200m, unless it is reading more,  
> maybe tombstone?  Or the rows on disk  have grown for some reason,  but row 
> cache was not updated?  Could be something else eats up the memory.  You may 
> profile memory and see who consumes the memory. 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> -Wei
> 
> Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T 
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: Re: unable to read saved rowcache from disk 
> From: Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com> 
> To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
> CC: 
> 
> 
> 3G, other jvm parameters are unchanged. 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Wz1975 <wz1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> How big is your heap?  Did you change the jvm parameter? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> -Wei
> 
> Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T 
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: Re: unable to read saved rowcache from disk 
> From: Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com> 
> To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
> CC: 
> 
> 
> add a counter and print out myself
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Wz1975 <wz1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Curious where did you see this? 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> -Wei
> 
> Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T 
> 
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: Re: unable to read saved rowcache from disk 
> From: Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com> 
> To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
> CC: 
> 
> 
> OOM at deserializing 747321th row
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:08 AM, Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> oh, as for the number of rows, it's 1650000. How long would you expect it to 
> be read back?
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Wei Zhu <wz1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Good information Edward. 
> For my case, we have good size of RAM (76G) and the heap is 8G. So I set the 
> row cache to be 800M as recommended. Our column is kind of big, so the hit 
> ratio for row cache is around 20%, so according to datastax, might just turn 
> the row cache altogether. 
> Anyway, for restart, it took about 2 minutes to load the row cache
> 
>  INFO [main] 2012-11-14 11:43:29,810 AutoSavingCache.java (line 108) reading 
> saved cache /var/lib/cassandra/saved_caches/XXX-f2-RowCache
>  INFO [main] 2012-11-14 11:45:12,612 ColumnFamilyStore.java (line 451) 
> completed loading (102801 ms; 21125 keys) row cache for XXX.f2 
> 
> Just for comparison, our key is long, the disk usage for row cache is 253K. 
> (it only stores key when row cache is saved to disk, so 253KB/ 8bytes = 31625 
> number of keys). It's about right...
> So for 15MB, there could be a lot of "narrow" rows. (if the key is Long, 
> could be more than 1M rows)
>   
> Thanks.
> -Wei
> From: Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com>
> To: user@cassandra.apache.org 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: unable to read saved rowcache from disk
> 
> http://wiki.apache.org/cassandra/LargeDataSetConsiderations
> 
> A negative side-effect of a large row-cache is start-up time. The
> periodic saving of the row cache information only saves the keys that
> are cached; the data has to be pre-fetched on start-up. On a large
> data set, this is probably going to be seek-bound and the time it
> takes to warm up the row cache will be linear with respect to the row
> cache size (assuming sufficiently large amounts of data that the seek
> bound I/O is not subject to optimization by disks)
> 
> Assuming a row cache 15MB and the average row is 300 bytes, that could
> be 50,000 entries. 4 hours seems like a long time to read back 50K
> entries. Unless the source table was very large and you can only do a
> small number / reads/sec.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "incorrect"... what do you mean? I think it's only 15MB, which is not big.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Edward Capriolo <edlinuxg...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes the row cache "could be" incorrect so on startup cassandra verify they
> >> saved row cache by re reading. It takes a long time so do not save a big 
> >> row
> >> cache.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, November 13, 2012, Manu Zhang <owenzhang1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I have a rowcache provieded by SerializingCacheProvider.
> >> > The data that has been read into it is about 500MB, as claimed by
> >> > jconsole. After saving cache, it is around 15MB on disk. Hence, I suppose
> >> > the size from jconsole is before serializing.
> >> > Now while restarting Cassandra, it's unable to read saved rowcache back.
> >> > By "unable", I mean around 4 hours and I have to abort it and remove 
> >> > cache
> >> > so as not to suspend other tasks.
> >> > Since the data aren't huge, why Cassandra can't read it back?
> >> > My Cassandra is 1.2.0-beta2.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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