Hi Jiayong,

Sorry I didn't make it clear in my previous email. When I commented on the RAID0 setup, it was only a comment on the RAID0 setup vs JBOD, and that was not in relation to the SSTable flushing issue. The part of my previous email after the "On the frequent SSTable flush issue" line is the part related to the SSTable flushing issue, and those two questions at the end of it remain valid:

 * Did you run repair?
 * Do you use materialized views?

and, if I may, I'd also like to add another question:

 * Do you have large (> 100 MB) partitions?

Those are the 3 things mentioned in the SO question. I'm trying to find the connections between the issue you are experiencing and the issue described in the SO question.


Cheers,

Bowen


On 13/08/2021 01:36, Jiayong Sun wrote:
Hello Bowen,

Thanks for your response.
Yes, we are aware of the theory that RAID0 vs individual JBOD, but all of our clusters are using this RAID0 configuration through Azure, while only on this cluster we see this issue so it's hardly to conclude root cause to the disk. This is more like workload related, and we are seeking feedback here for any other parameters in the yaml that we could tune for this.

Thanks again,
Jiayong Sun

On Thursday, August 12, 2021, 04:55:51 AM PDT, Bowen Song <bo...@bso.ng> wrote:


Hello Jiayong,


Using multiple disks in a RAID0 for Cassandra data directory is not recommended. You will get better fault tolerance and often better performance too with multiple data directories, one on each disk.

If you stick with RAID0, it's not 4 disks, it's 1 from Cassandra's point of view, because any read or write operation will have to touch all 4 member disks. Therefore, 4 flush writers doesn't make much sense.

On the frequent SSTable flush issue, a quick internet search leads me to:

    * an old bug in Cassandra 2.1 - CASSANDRA-8409
    <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-8409> which
    shouldn't affect 3.x at all

    * a StackOverflow question
    
<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61030392/cassandra-node-jvm-hang-during-node-repair-a-table-with-materialized-view>
    may be related

Did you run repair? Do you use materialized views?


Regards,

Bowen


On 11/08/2021 15:58, Jiayong Sun wrote:
Hi Erick,

The nodes have 4 SSD (1TB for each but we only use 2.4TB of space. Current disk usage is about 50%) with RAID0. Based on number of disks we increased memtable_flush_writers: 4 instead of default of 2.

For the following we set:
- max heap size - 31GB
- memtable_heap_space_in_mb (use default)
- memtable_offheap_space_in_mb  (use default)

In the logs, we also noticed system.sstable_activity table has hundreds of MB or GB of data and constantly flushing: DEBUG [NativePoolCleaner] <timestamp> ColumnFamilyStore.java:932 - Enqueuing flush of sstable_activity: 0.293KiB (0%) on-heap, 0.107KiB (0%) off-heap DEBUG [NonPeriodicTasks:1] <timestamp> SSTable.java:105 - Deleting sstable: /app/cassandra/data/system/sstable_activity-5a1ff267ace03f128563cfae6103c65e/md-103645-big DEBUG [NativePoolCleaner] <timestamp> ColumnFamilyStore.java:1322 - Flushing largest CFS(Keyspace='system', ColumnFamily='sstable_activity') to free up room. Used total: 0.06/1.00, live: 0.00/0.00, flushing: 0.02/0.29, this: 0.00/0.00

Thanks,
Jiayong Sun
On Wednesday, August 11, 2021, 12:06:27 AM PDT, Erick Ramirez <erick.rami...@datastax.com> <mailto:erick.rami...@datastax.com> wrote:


4 flush writers isn't bad since the default is 2. It doesn't make a difference if you have fast disks (like NVMe SSDs) because only 1 thread gets used.

But if flushes are slow, the work gets distributed to 4 flush writers so you end up with smaller flush sizes although it's difficult to tell how tiny the SSTables would be without analysing the logs and overall performance of your cluster.

Was there a specific reason you decided to bump it up to 4? I'm just trying to get a sense of why you did it since it might provide some clues. Out of curiosity, what do you have set for the following?
- max heap size
- memtable_heap_space_in_mb
- memtable_offheap_space_in_mb

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