Sure, you can add me to the list. I'm a java developer in my day job. I'm learning the rest of OFBIZ. I'm also a team player, I can work on whatever we need to to get the job done. I had planned with starting on the most glaring omissions, the Income and balance sheet. But I haven't actually slung any code for it.
On Nov 22, 2007 11:38 PM, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Jim, (and others interested in helping with the implementation of the > accounting component) > > can I add you to the list of "people interested" in this page: > > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/New+Features+Roadmap+-+Draft > > ? > > If you (or others in this list) are willing to help with the > implementation I will do my best to help to organize the work in the > community (and also implement something). > > The main question to the ones interested are: > > - are there specific tasks you would like to work on? > - if not, we can help to assign/distribute tasks, but it would be useful > to know what is your area of expertise: tech (Java, minilang, > screen/form widgets, etc...) or business (OFBiz data model, existing > services, general AR/AP...) > > I've recently (yesterday and the day before it) I've cleaned up some > stuff in the accounting component (and implemented some new screens) and > now I have a clearer view of what is already available and what needs to > be done: now I'm sure that we can relatively quickly implement some good > stuff here with your help, so guys don't be shy!!! > > Jacopo > > > > > Jim Barrows wrote: > > Ok, so we still want to build this.. only better :) > > > > On Nov 20, 2007 5:12 PM, David E Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> That is very old, and a lot has changed since then, including what > >> happened to this code base. All of the lower level stuff including the > >> data structures and GL posting services are part of OFBiz, but the > >> higher level things such as reports and automated posting mapping > >> services (from things like invoices, payments, inventory changes, etc) > >> are all part of the HPL licensed financials component from Open Source > >> Strategies, part of the opentaps distribution (semi-fork these days, > >> lots of stuff implemented that doesn't go back into OFBiz). > >> > >> For more information you should see their site at > >> opensourcestrategies.com. The HPL (Honest Public License) is a not an > >> OSI approved license and has some rather unpleasant terms in it, the > >> goal being to force contributions or purchase of a commercial license > >> (just like pretty much all "open source" companies that dual license, > >> usually with GPL though). The main thing with HPL is that if you make > >> it available over the internet it explicitly states that this is > >> public distribution of the software (for more details see the license > >> itself). > >> > >> In any case, that is why you're seeing discussion of implementing > >> these things even though there is an OFBiz add-on that has them, and > >> hence all of the references to another project that is licensed in > >> terms that make it hard to build a community around, and that can't be > >> included with OFBiz, etc. > >> > >> -David > >> > >> > >> > >> On Nov 20, 2007, at 4:54 PM, Jim Barrows wrote: > >> > >>> So what is the status? Do we have to pay for it? Is it done? i > >>> would think that in 2 years it would've gotten done by now. > >>> > >>> On Nov 20, 2007 4:48 PM, BJ Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> Here is and update from couple of years ago. > >>>> previously there was discussion about the frame work of this. > >>>> if I did all these out, is there a place on the documentation site we > >>>> can put them to save a lot of re discussion. > >>>> > >>>> David E. Jones sent the following on 9/23/2005 4:16 PM: > >>>>> Update: Accounting/GL Now in Beta Testing > >>>>> > >>>>> The Open For Business Accounting and General Ledger (GL) > >>>>> application is > >>>>> now moving into beta testing. Currently, it can support the > >>>>> accounting > >>>>> needs of most product-retail businesses that use Open For Business, > >>>>> including: > >>>>> > >>>>> * Support for multiple organizations and multiple currencies > >>>>> * Setting up chart of accounts with unlimited depth > >>>>> * General Ledger posting for most key business processes > >>>>> * Financial reports including trial balance, income statements, > >>>>> and > >>>>> balance sheets > >>>>> * Screens to create and manage both Accounts Receivable (AR) and > >>>>> Accounts Payable (AP) invoices and payments > >>>>> * Screens for managing tax liabilities across multiple > >>>>> jurisdictions > >>>>> * Administrative features such as periodic closings > >>>>> * Flexible entry and maintenance of payments and invoice > >>>>> (including > >>>>> application payments to invoices, etc) > >>>>> * Export to outside accounting applications (QBXML for > >>>>> QuickBooks is > >>>>> included) > >>>>> > >>>>> This application is fully integrated with the rest of OFBiz, > >>>>> including > >>>>> ecommerce, Point Of Sales, order manager, and facilities > >>>>> manager. It > >>>>> drops into your hot-deploy/ directory and runs right away. If > >>>>> you need > >>>>> other accounting-related features, such as payroll, it is fairly > >>>>> easy > >>>>> to develop a plug in for it. > >>>>> > >>>>> If you would like to learn more about the GL application, there is a > >>>>> video from the St. Louis Users' Conference > >>>>> (http://www.ofbiz.org/VideosConf.html) and an online demo > >>>>> (http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/demos.php). > >>>>> > >>>>> How to Make it Open Source > >>>>> > >>>>> The Accounting and General Ledger is developed under a community > >>>>> funding > >>>>> model. The idea is to get community funding to help cover the cost > >>>>> of > >>>>> developing a large, complex application. We think this is a very > >>>>> fair > >>>>> user-driven model because it can produce open source software with > >>>>> either a large number of small contributors or a small number of > >>>>> larger > >>>>> contributors. As an added incentive, those who contribute over > >>>>> $3,000 > >>>>> can begin to use the application immediately and benefit from all > >>>>> its > >>>>> features for a fraction of the cost of in-house development. > >>>>> > >>>>> We've currently received sponsorship for about half the development > >>>>> costs ($26,000 out of about $50,000) and require another $24,000 to > >>>>> reach our goal and release it under an open source license. This > >>>>> means > >>>>> that we can get there with just eight user-contributors with > >>>>> $3,000 each > >>>>> or, alternatively, a hundred contributors of under $250 each. > >>>>> > >>>>> -Si Chen > >>>>> -David E. Jones > >>>>> > >>>>> P.S. Special thanks to all who have contributed labor and funds to > >>>>> this > >>>>> effort, including: Open Source Strategies, Undersun Consulting, Ant > >>>>> Websystems, Masterfile Corp, and others. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Users mailing list > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> http://lists.ofbiz.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> James A Barrows > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- James A Barrows
