Hi :)
Ahah, thanks Jay.  I was hoping that HSql only dipped into using java for a few 
things.  So, Don needs to have that java box ticked all the time he uses Base 
and can only avoid it when not using Base at all.

Is it possible to edit short-cuts and stuff so that opening Base will enable 
java but opening java wont?  I think it might be possible in Gnu&Linux by 
having 2 different short-cuts on the desktop or in the taskbar/panel.

regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sun, 18/9/11, planas <jsloz...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: planas <jsloz...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 18 September, 2011, 6:58

Hi,
On Sat, 2011-09-17 at 23:30 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: 

> Hi :)
> Thanks Don.  I think you might be able to convert/export/migrate your 
> back-end to a different one.  I don't think you have to stick with HSql.  I'm 
> not sure if it's possible to remove java dependence when using HSql, i 
> thought it was but i could be wrong.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Don Myers <donmy...@myersfarm.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Don Myers <donmy...@myersfarm.com>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 23:13
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I set up base shortly after it was added to Open Office. Apparently I am 
> using the embedded database - HSQL database engine. If I turn off Java 
> (I just tried it.), I get the following error message:
> The connection to the data source "RE Database" could not be 
> established. No SDBC driver was found for the given URL.
> 
> I cannot open my database without Java enabled. So using the database 
> included with base will not work without Java.
> 
> Don

snip

The HSQL engine is Java based. It may be possible to use Base as a
front-end for something like MySQL or PostgreSQL, which do not use Java.


> On 09/17/2011 08:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > I think you can completely un-install all instances of java but i think 
> > that might create problems.  Your web-browser might not be very happy 
> > without java.  Generally i try to keep escape routes and back-up plans 
> > available = so i would just switch off java in LO so that i could switch it 
> > on again quite easily if i needed it.
> >
> > Tools - Options - LibreOffice/General - Java
> > then UNtick the box at the very top "Use a java runtime environment".  I 
> > have only unticked this a few days ago and LO seems to start-up a lot 
> > faster.
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> > --- On Sat, 17/9/11, Heinrich Stoellinger<hc.stoellin...@aon.at>  wrote:
> >
> > From: Heinrich Stoellinger<hc.stoellin...@aon.at>
> > Subject: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
> > To: "users@global.libreoffice.org"<users@global.libreoffice.org>
> > Date: Saturday, 17 September, 2011, 11:55
> >
> > Hello again,
> > Is there a misunderstanding somewhere? As I said, I use the ODBC-connection
> > to MySQL on Linux (and a very well working native MySQL-connection under
> > Windows). Like I posted in another message, ODBC also has problems (such
> > as not showing default values for columns correctly on data entry, but -
> > since the database is actually updated correctly - this doesn't really
> > worry me much.
> > So, like Tom suggests: can I get completely rid of Java if I don't
> > conciously use it in any way that an end-user or programmer could cause?
> > That would be more than alright for me...
> > Regards
> > H. Stoellinger (from a lovely early autumn sunny day here in Salzburg)
> > P.S.: I have used the Java-connector in the past but don't do so anymore.
> >
> >
> > ------- Forwarded message -------
> > From: "Andreas Säger"<ville...@t-online.de>
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice-Base CPU usage
> > Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:35:28 +0200
> >
> > Since you are not running MySQL through ODBC you can turn off all Java
> > support for the entire office suite and simply work with the raw
> > database connectivity and input forms.
> > All the Java wizards are close to useless anyway. You don't need them
> > and get much better results faster if you know what you're doing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 16.09.2011 20:44, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote:
> >> Hello again,
> >> On my Linux/LO 3.4.3 system, after some time of working with Base (ODBC
> >> connetcion
> >> to MySQL), LO uses 90 to 100 p.c. of one of the 4 CPUs of my PC. When I
> >> then save
> >> LO-Base, CPU-usage is normal again (for a while!). I don't really know
> >> what causes
> >> this behaviour, could it have to to with backup copy creation? I find an
> >> aweful
> >> lot of backup files in /home/rainermusik/.libreoffice/3/user/backup.
> >> All of them have a filename something like "rmodbc.odb_9777.odb" and are
> >> of 0 (zero)
> >> size. I wonder what's wrong.
> >> Regards
> >> H. Stoellinger
> >>
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