Exactly: Responses are transmitted over the same link that they are
originated.
So that means when a submit_sm is sent (over the transmitter link) the
submit_sm__resp will also be sent to the transmitter link.

If not, you wouldn't even be able to bind successfully.

So Brett is right here.

== Rene

-----Original Message-----
From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf
Of Nikos Balkanas
Sent: donderdag 1 juli 2010 17:03
To: brett skinner; users@kannel.org
Subject: Re: Open DLRs

Submit_sm_resp is originated on the SMSc. Therefore it, is sent over the 
Receiver. Where does it say on the SMPP spec that responses are transmitted 
differently than requests?

Nikos
----- Original Message ----- 
From: brett skinner
To: users@kannel.org
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Open DLRs


It makes perfect sense according to the SMPP specification.


A connection is either bound as transmitter, receiver or both (transceiver).


A transmitter is for messages set to SMSC from ESME.
A receiver is for messages from SMSC to EMSE.
Transceiver does both.


So a submit_sm is a request to SMSC from ESME and the EMSE will acknowledge 
via a sm_submit_resp.


The deliver_sm is an SMSC originated message and will therefore go the 
receiver not the submitted. But all of this I am sure you know.


I had not set up a receiver port because I had intended to be in transceiver

mode but during all my testing I had commented out the transceiver-mode line

so effectively had this in my config.


#transceiver-mode = true


As soon as I took away the comments and started up again I received all the 
deliver_sm from the SMSC that had been queuing.


I have not submitted any logs or config because I have resolved my issue and

what happened can be easily explained by the SMPP protocol. Everything seems

to be working as designed.




2010/7/1 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>

Hi,

Nope. The same way you were getting submit_sm_resp, you should have gotten 
deliver_sm. What you say doesn't make much sense, but is difficult to say, 
since you never submitted any logs.


BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: brett skinner
To: users@kannel.org

Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 10:26 AM

Subject: Re: Open DLRs


Hi


I am assuming because I had bound as a transmitter and was sending submit_sm

packets that they were responding with submit_sm_resp. I think that is 
according to SMPP 3.4 spec. The only problem is that I was not getting the 
delivery receipts. It seems that Kannel treats the a positive submit_sm_resp

as a DLR to say enqueued.


Regards,


2010/6/30 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>

Hi,

How then did you get the submit_sm_resp from the SMSc?


BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: brett skinner
To: users@kannel.org

Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 12:37 PM

Subject: Re: Open DLRs


Hi


It turns out that I had commented out the section where I put the bind into 
transceiver mode. Everything is working as expected.


Thank you for the help.


2010/6/30 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>

Hi,

No. You have done all you needed from kannel's side. If not seeing 
deliver_sm, try talking to your SMSc.


BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- From: brett skinner
To: users@kannel.org

Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Open DLRs



Hi Nikos


Thanks for your reply. That is the impression that I got. The only thing 
that is a little confusing right now is that I am not seeing the temporary 
DLRs in the MySQL table ever being removed. I am using SMPP and am testing 
by sending to an actual SMSC and I am getting the message on my handset. I 
see the submit_sm and submit_sm_resp in the logs. But no where do I see any 
deliver_sm in the logs. Do I need to specify anything extra when calling the

sends_sms URL? (I didn't see any additional parameters in the user guide). I

have waited a couple of hours after I received the SMS on my handset and 
still nothing from the SMSC and the DLRs are still in the table.


Last question: How does Kannel do the lookup to remove the DLR once it is 
received? Does it use the smsc and the ts fields assuming you are using 
SMPP?


Regards,



2010/6/30 Nikos Balkanas <nbalka...@gmail.com>

Hi,

The documentation is correct. DLR entries (internal to kannel but without 
final status) are created and inserted when the SMS is accepted by the SMSc 
and deleted when the external DLR (with final status) arrives from the SMSc.

This could last for the time it takes to deliver the SMS to the mobile. It 
could be anything from a few minutes to a couple of days. If DLRs are in 
memory, bb is restarted, and the final DLR from the SMSc is still pending, 
the entries will be erased from memory. The result is that when the external

status DLR arrives from the SMSc, there is no corresponding entry to match 
in kannel, and discarded. This doesn't happen if you use a DB for 
dlr-storage.

The DLR tables are to be used only internally by kannel. You can see the DLR

from bb access logs and you can even store it in your external web 
application by specifying a dlr-url to your push SMS. You will have to 
supply a msg-id to that dlr-url, unique for each MT, since msgid is internal

to kannel and not sent over the dlr-url.

For more info read User's Guide.

BR,
Nikos

----- Original Message ----- From: brett skinner
To: users@kannel.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:44 AM
Subject: Open DLRs



Hi


Reading through the documentation I came across this statement:


This is problematic if bearerbox crashes or you take the process down in a 
controlled way, but there are still DLRs open. Therefore you may use 
external DLR storage places, i.e. a MySQL database.


Does that mean that the MySQL is temporary storage and that at some point 
when the DLR is deemed to be closed that the row will be removed? If so then


When is a DLR closed?
Should we be using the MySQL table to get extra information about the DLR?
If not what should we be using?
Can we get Kannel to send us information about the fields in the DLR in the 
URL. Such as message_id field from submit_sm_resp?
Thank you. I really appreciate all the help. 





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