I see your point.

Most app servers do that (Weblogic, JBoss), but IIRC they stopped supporting 
the non-compliant behaviour by default between versions 7.0 and 8.1 of Weblogic 
precisely to avoid losing the J2EE cert.

I agree you are right. Such behaviour should be optional. 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: Cosma Colanicchia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: martes, 20 de junio de 2006 12:23
Para: MyFaces Discussion
Asunto: Re: f:converterDateTime doesn't convert properly

I agree with you, I'm only saying that we could lose "formal" Sun
certification, if specifications say X and (by default) you do Y.


2006/6/20, Coloma Escribano, Ignacio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> If I understand correctly, it would be 99% backwards compatible:
>
> * If I did specify a TimeZone in the JSP, it will be used anyways after the 
> change.
> * If I didn't (and it works) it's because my system local TimeZone is GMT, so 
> I'm not affected by the change.
>
> The only case that would be broken was the case where the OS TimeZone is not 
> the same I want to use (for example, aeronautical systems all work as UTC). 
> But these will most probably change the default JDK TimeZone at system 
> startup.
>
> The affected users would be a minority.
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Cosma Colanicchia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Enviado el: martes, 20 de junio de 2006 11:58
> Para: MyFaces Discussion
> Asunto: Re: f:converterDateTime doesn't convert properly
>
> I fear that such an option could causes TCK issues..
>
> Cosma
>
> 2006/6/20, Coloma Escribano, Ignacio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Since the spec is so obviously error-prone for the most common case, it
> > would make sense to add a config property "SPEC_COMPLIANT_TIMEZONE",
> > default to false, and use the system TimeZone by default.
> >
> > I mean, to avoid everyone complaining about date conversion issues. Does
> > anybody know why its default is GMT instead of system default? I mean,
> > Oracle, java, etc adopt the same default TimeZone as the OS.
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Cosma Colanicchia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Enviado el: martes, 20 de junio de 2006 11:42
> > Para: MyFaces Discussion
> > Asunto: Re: f:converterDateTime doesn't convert properly
> >
> > If you agree I can put some more detail into the wiki FAQ entry..
> >
> > Cosma
> >
> >
> > 2006/6/20, Volker Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > see this thread for more info:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/users%40myfaces.apache.org/msg21412.html
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >   Volker
> > >
> > > 2006/6/20, Susumu Majima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > I use JBOSS/Seam that includes Myface1.1.1.
> > > >
> > > > When I try to show time it isn't shown properly.
> > > >
> > > > the code snipped is below
> > > >
> > > > <h:outputText value ="#{schedule0.sch_start">
> > > >     <f:convertDateTime pattern "HH:mm"/>
> > > > </h:outputText>
> > > >
> > > > If actual data is 9:00 then shown date is 0:00.
> > > >
> > > > I'm in Japan so the shown time is GMT time?
> > > >
> > > > Is there any good way to  correct this problem or work around?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Susumu Majima
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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