On 12/8/06, Nebinger, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are they still working on 2.0?
Yep. We're about to release the third beta. * http://struts.apache.org/2.x/
I've heard that JSF was to be considered 2.0,
Yes, it was considered, but not everyone was ready to make the paradigm jump from action-based to component-based.
I've heard that it was to be abandoned for Shale,
No, that was never the case. The Struts PMC chose not to adopt Shale as Struts 2. We hosted it as a subproject for a time, but now Shale is an Apache Project in its own right. * http://shale.apache.org/
and I'm aware that there is a core set of struts-lovers that would prefer incremental updates to struts.
Yes, that's true. There are tens of thousand of Struts 1 applications in production, and some people don't want to start over yet. Struts 1.3.6 is also about to be released. There are also extensions like Strecks that add Java 5 features, like annoncations, to Struts 1. Both Struts 1 ans 2 also work well with technologies like Ajax.
All I know is that we have projects underway right now. We needed a modern framework that was built under the modern IOC pattern. JSF fits; struts (in it's current incarnation) does not.
I'm not advocating that anyone put aside JSF or MyFaces (I helped bring MyFaces into the ASF), but, to give the devil its due, the current incanation of Struts 2 is in fact "built under the modern IOC pattern". Struts 2 also offers * Client side support * No required inheritence * IOC capabilities * Testability and other goodies like plugin support. Of course, there are many good reasons to choose JSF. The top three in my book would be 1 Bundled with Sun's Java distribution 2 Supported by IDEs 3 Compatible with GUI architectures A professional chooses the right tool for the right job. In some circumstnaces, that's going to be JSF and MyFaces, or Shale. Other times, in other circumstances, it may be Struts 1 or Struts 2. Technically, all of these frameworks, along with ASP.NET, are roughly equivalent. What makes the difference is the people who use the frameworks. The pointy-haired bosses don't like to hear that, because they want developers to be replaceable commodities and frameworks to be silver bullets. But, the truth is, web development is still a skilled profession, and not a matter of just clicking buttons in a GUI. -Ted.
