Jonathon Blake wrote:
Rod wrote:


Go  ">Format >Styles >Catalog"
That menu option has been dropped from 2.0.

It was renamed, and another step added in OOo 2.0.   It is availble
thru the menu, though.

Not that I can find.


Answer: You can't do it; at least not in Writer. And this isn't a

I've done it using OOo 1.1.3-ZA.
It took me a while to figure out how to do it, but it can be done.

so the deficiency potentially affects almost anyone using OOo in academic work.

I will grant that doing that in OOo is a PITA.  Doable, but a major PITA.

Quite honestly, Jonathon, until I see a set of steps detailing how to do it, I don't believe it can be done.

What magic incantation either a) suppresses the linefeed at the end of the paragraph, or b) assigns a heading marker of some sort to a character style or arbitrary text?


So if you have a document that uses more than one font, you have make
duplicates of things like an Emphasis character style for each font or
point size.

That depends.  Some attributes of character styles can be constructed
so that applying the character styles will change just one attribute, when overlaid a paragraph style.

You're the second person to say it can be done, but no one as yet has actually said *how* you go about doing it.


For various reasons, I think that it is a bd idea to construct such
charaacter styles.


It's a fantastic idea if you want people to use character styles vs. direct formatting. As it stands, character styles are just to fiddly for most people.



Thus far you have given run-in headings:  [Issue # 39582, if you want
to vote for it.]
It can be currently done in OOo, but it is messy, amongst other things.

What other examples do you have?

It's not about examples, it's about the principle. With WP's tokens you can create formatting that no one had ever dreamed of before. With Writer's styles you are largely constrained to what the program author's imagination could conjure.

But, as another example, with WP's version of styles you can create a style that changes only a language attribute. So you could create a style that marks a number of sections of text as being Welsh. Later, you realize you made a mistake and that you should have been marking them as Gaelic. You can access the style, change the language attribute from Welsh to Gaelic, apply that and then rename the style as well if you wish. And you can do this over sections of text with mixed fonts, point sizes, or whatever.

I'm not going to claim that Wordperfect is better (or worse) than Writer, or that code tokens are better (or worse) than object styles. But Wordperfect is a mature product with a loyal following for a reason. I think that WP's implementation of tokens and reveal code is more mature and fully developed than Writer's or Word's implementation of object styles. I think that Writer's object styles are more predictable and less prone to human error. There's no intrinsic reason why object styles can't be made just as robust and flexible as tokens, but it is going to take some serious rethinking of the implementation.

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Rod

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