Hey,

I wanted to report that trying to "dd" from the storage-side always makes the 
VM´s OS see two itdentically small HDD's. The only work-around I´ve found that 
works is to create a new, bigger drive, boot the VM from a live-CD and "dd" 
from there. When rebooted after completion, the VM´s OS then sees a bigger 
drive that you can extend your filesystem on. A little slower procedure, having 
the mirroring go over the network, but works, and that´s what´s important in 
the end:)

/Karli

mån 2013-01-14 klockan 08:37 +0000 skrev Karli Sjöberg:
ons 2013-01-09 klockan 13:04 -0500 skrev Yeela Kaplan:



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karli Sjöberg" <karli.sjob...@slu.se<mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se>>
> To: "Yeela Kaplan" <ykap...@redhat.com<mailto:ykap...@redhat.com>>
> Cc: "Rocky" <rockyba...@gmail.com<mailto:rockyba...@gmail.com>>, 
> Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 4:30:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Users] Best practice to resize a WM disk image
>
> ons 2013-01-09 klockan 09:13 -0500 skrev Yeela Kaplan:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Karli Sjöberg" < karli.sjob...@slu.se<mailto:karli.sjob...@slu.se> >
> > To: "Yeela Kaplan" < ykap...@redhat.com<mailto:ykap...@redhat.com> >
> > Cc: "Rocky" < rockyba...@gmail.com<mailto:rockyba...@gmail.com> >, 
> > Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, January 9, 2013 1:56:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Users] Best practice to resize a WM disk image
> >
> > tis 2013-01-08 klockan 11:03 -0500 skrev Yeela Kaplan:
> >
> > So, first of all, you should know that resizing a disk is not yet
> > supported in oVirt.
> > If you decide that you must use it anyway, you should know in
> > advance
> > that it's not recommended,
> > and that your data is at risk when you perform these kind of
> > actions.
> >
> > There are several ways to perform this.
> > One of them is to create a second (larger) disk for the vm,
> > run the vm from live cd and use dd to copy the first disk contents
> > into the second one,
> > and finally remove the first disk and make sure that the new disk
> > is
> > configured as your system disk.
> > Here you guide for the dd operation
> > to be done from within the guest system, but booted from live.
> > Can this be done directly from the NFS storage itself instead?
> >
>
> Karli, it can be done by using dd (or rsync), when your source is the
> volume of the current disk image
> and the destination is the volume of the new disk image created.
> You just have to find the images in the internals of the vdsm host,
> which is a bit more tricky
> and can cause more damage if done wrong. You mean since the VM's and
> disks are called like "c3dbfb5f-7b3b-4602-961f-624c69618734" you
> have to query the api to figure out what´s what, but other than
> that, you´re saying it´ll "just work", so that´s good to know, since
> I think letting the storage itself do the dd copy locally is going
> to be much much faster than through the VM, over the network.
> Thanks!
> Will it matter if the disks are "Thin Provision" or "Preallocated"?
>
>

As long as it's done on the base volume it doesn't matter.


Well, I´ve now tested the suggested procedure and didn´t really go all the way 
home.
1. Created a new, bigger virtual disk than the original, 40GB.
2. Booted Win2008R2 guest and could see from DiskManager that a new, bigger 
drive, 80GB, had appeared.
3. Shut guest down and issued a dd from old source to new, bigger destination.
4. When started, DiskManager now sees an offline, equally small drive as the 
original, 40GB. There is no free space in the new drive to expand with, Windows 
only sees it as beeing 40GB.

Have tried "Refresh" and "Rescan", but Windows just sees two identically small 
disks.

Suggestions?




>
> >
> >
> > The second, riskier, option is to export the vm to an export
> > domain,
> > resize the image volume size to the new larger size using qemu-img
> > and also modify the vm's metadata in its ovf,
> > as you can see this option is more complicated and requires deeper
> > understanding and altering of the metadata...
> > finally you'll need to import the vm back.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rocky" < rockyba...@gmail.com<mailto:rockyba...@gmail.com> >
> > > To: "Yeela Kaplan" < ykap...@redhat.com<mailto:ykap...@redhat.com> >
> > > Cc: Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 
> > > 2013 11:30:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Users] Best practice to resize a WM disk image
> > >
> > > Its just a theoretical question as I think the issue will come
> > > for
> > > us
> > > and other users.
> > >
> > > I think there can be one or more snapshots in the WM over the
> > > time.
> > > But
> > > if that is an issue we can always collapse them I think.
> > > If its a base image it should be RAW, right?
> > > In this case its on file storage (NFS).
> > >
> > > Regards //Ricky
> > >
> > > On 2013-01-08 10:07, Yeela Kaplan wrote:
> > > > Hi Ricky,
> > > > In order to give you a detailed answer I need additional
> > > > details
> > > > regarding the disk:
> > > > - Is the disk image composed as a chain of volumes or just a
> > > > base
> > > > volume?
> > > > (if it's a chain it will be more complicated, you might want to
> > > > collapse the chain first to make it easier).
> > > > - Is the disk image raw? (you can use qemu-img info to check)
> > > > - Is the disk image on block or file storage?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Yeela
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > >> From: "Ricky" < rockyba...@gmail.com<mailto:rockyba...@gmail.com> >
> > > >> To: Users@ovirt.org<mailto:Users@ovirt.org> > >> Sent: Tuesday, 
> > > >> January 8, 2013
> > > >> 10:40:27
> > > >> AM
> > > >> Subject: [Users] Best practice to resize a WM disk image
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> If I have a VM that has run out of disk space, how can I
> > > >> increase
> > > >> the
> > > >> space in best way? One way is to add a second bigger disk to
> > > >> the
> > > >> WM
> > > >> and then use dd or similar to copy. But is it possible to
> > > >> stretch
> > > >> the
> > > >> original disk inside or outside oVirt and get oVirt to know
> > > >> the
> > > >> bigger
> > > >> size?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards //Ricky
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