OK so now it's a bit more than only re-organizing the drawer's entries.
Your proposition is also about removing some elements, and renaming some of
them. We are more closer to your original issue (
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XE-1582).

It's a big change that we usually don't do at the end of a development
cycle.

Concerning its content, and more precisely the renaming of the items, I
would love to read the opinion of committers. For example, I agree it looks
more natural to see "All users" than "User Index" or "All other wikis"
instead of "Wiki Index" in a subwiki, but it breaks the famous consistency
principle we tend to have.

I also like "Settings" instead of "Administration", but we could even go
deeper and say "Settings of the wiki" to not confuse with "User Settings".

You also propose a "Recent Changes" item, which could lead to the Activity
Stream. Should I open a new discussion about this?

For now, I could change the order of the elements, and introduce 2
categories: "items concerning the current wiki", and "items concerning the
main wiki". It's already a breakage from the UI Extension API point of view.

Thanks,

2016-11-03 10:01 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com>:

> Yes Miroslav, we have received your message. Thanks you :)
>
> 2016-11-02 23:13 GMT+01:00 Miroslav Galajda <miroslav.gala...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi, I've sent an email with preference for P5, last week. Have you
>> received
>> it?
>>
>> P5 seems to me clean and logical to work with.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mirec
>>
>> On 2 November 2016 at 11:23, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your comments. Any other?
>> >
>> > Guillaume
>> >
>> > 2016-10-26 17:03 GMT+02:00 Jan-Paul Kleijn <em...@biggee.nl>:
>> >
>> > > P5 is also my favorite because it draws more attention to the content.
>> > > It's the more grown-up version.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Op 26-10-2016 om 10:28 schreef Guillaume Delhumeau:
>> > >
>> > > No opinion?
>> > >>
>> > >> 2016-10-24 18:09 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau <
>> > >> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com>:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hello dear developers and XWiki users.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I would you to take a look at the issue
>> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/
>> > >>> XWIKI-13070.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The problem is that the current order (that I have implemented
>> based on
>> > >>> my
>> > >>> intuition) seems to not be clear for our users. The main point is
>> that
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> menu mixes up global items (Home wiki, Wiki Index) and local ones
>> > >>> (Administer Wiki, Page Index, Delete wiki, etc...).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Caty and Oliver have made some proposals that you could find in the
>> > >>> issue.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> They are called P1, P2, P3, P4 and P5.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I propose you to express your preferences so we can implement it
>> based
>> > on
>> > >>> a consensus.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Here are mine:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> P1: There is a logical order and separation between item. However,
>> it
>> > >>> seems the more used actions (Wiki Index, Page Index) are less
>> visible
>> > >>> than
>> > >>> some other (Delete Wiki, Create Wiki...)
>> > >>>
>> > >>> P2: The order and the separation are logic. The "delete wiki"
>> action is
>> > >>> still very visible but all other items are good.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> P3: Same than P2. Except that having "Wiki Index" along with "User,
>> > Page
>> > >>> and Application Index" mixes up local and global items.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> P4: Why not, but maybe the 3 first actions should be placed after
>> the
>> > >>> other ones, since they would be less used. Same remark about the
>> mixing
>> > >>> of
>> > >>> local and global items.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> P5: A clear distinction between local and global scope. More used
>> items
>> > >>> are located first. This is my favorite one.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> So +1 for P5, +0 for the other options so far.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Now, what about you?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Thanks,
>> > >>> Guillaume
>> > >>>
>> > >>> PS: I send this message to both devs and users mailing lists,
>> because I
>> > >>> think users are directly concerned by this topic.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com)
>> > >>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>> > >>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>
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