VACList Digest Thursday, November 21 2002 Volume 03 : Number 021
When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html Topics in Today's Digest: Re: [VACList] Re: Heaters [VACList] Stripping clearcoat [VACList] Re: VACList Digest RE: [VACList] Re: Heaters Re: [VACList] Re: Heaters [VACList] VACList Digest - Skin Repair Re: [VACList] Re: Heaters [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge Re: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest Re: [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge [VACList] Heaters Re: [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge Re: [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 08:48:49 -0500 From: "lefty frizzell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: Heaters I ran into that in California. My trailer was "TOO OLD" and did not meet their code. That's despite a total rewire and update througout. lefty - ----- Original Message ----- From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: Heaters > doing things, you'll never do anything. I know places where you are not > allowed to park your Airstream by code :( > > Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:20:11 -0700 From: "Bob Hightower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Stripping clearcoat I've been following this thread for awhile, and have been in contact with the national sales manager for Napier. He tells me that RemovAll 210 is the correct product to use, and is completely non-toxic and environmentally safe. This product is made by Napier, and is the same as that once shown on This Old House to remove several layers of paint. Napier also privately brands this product, and it is marked by ICI Paints as Hydrostrip 502, and as a Crown brand (don't know any more specifics on this one). If you browse on ICI Paints, you can find a store close to you that sells the stripper. It's available in 1 and 5 gallon sizes. Seems to be a bit pricey, but, in terms of labor savings alone and the lessened impact on the environment, should be worth it. Runs in the $40 per gallon range. I haven't tried it yet (I'm supposed to get a gallon to try out and report on), but when I do, I'll post more. Bob Hightower '76 31' Sov ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:16:30 -0600 From: Stuart Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest Recently, our '56 Airstream Caravanner was damaged in the front end. A truck backed into it. Point of impact is just below and left of lower left window corner. Precisely over a structural member which frames the side if the window opening. It pushed the frame inward about 2" along with the exterior and interior skins. The sofa shelf was damaged as well. No skin puncture or wrinkle. I have seen substantial dents carefully removed from other injured airstreams, and I believe there will be no need for replacement metal. Probable disassembly and reassemble. Can anyone recommend a responsible repair station for such a problem? Email pics are available. Thanks for the help, Stuart Smith '56 Caravanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:27:22 -0600 From: "Jim Combs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [VACList] Re: Heaters How do you do this without stressing/weakening the heater's copper gas feed? Jimbo / '76 Sovereign - -----Original Message----- From: My Airstream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Hinges are the only way to go with the CAT. They allow you to direct the >heat into the space where it is needed. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:59:45 -0800 From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: Heaters > How do you do this without stressing/weakening > the heater's copper gas feed? > > Jimbo / '76 Sovereign Hi Jimbo: By use of the length of gas hose that connects the heater and (hopefully) the isolation valve at the copper gas line source. GQ '67 Safari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:26:24 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] VACList Digest - Skin Repair Stuart, I'm sorry to hear about the accident. On the basis of my skin repair experience at Executive Air Repair in Sacramento, I'd suggest that you find an aircraft repair shop that works on private planes in your area. I was very happy with the work the guys here did, and I imagine the people in your area would have similar skills. Good luck! Amanda '68 Safari WBCCI 7280 Original Message: - ----------------- From: Stuart Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:16:30 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest Recently, our '56 Airstream Caravanner was damaged in the front end. A truck backed into it. Point of impact is just below and left of lower left window corner. Precisely over a structural member which frames the side if the window opening. It pushed the frame inward about 2" along with the exterior and interior skins. The sofa shelf was damaged as well. No skin puncture or wrinkle. I have seen substantial dents carefully removed from other injured airstreams, and I believe there will be no need for replacement metal. Probable disassembly and reassemble. Can anyone recommend a responsible repair station for such a problem? Email pics are available. Thanks for the help, Stuart Smith '56 Caravanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:54:08 -0800 From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: Heaters I used corrrugated metal tubing from an outlet to the unit. Prebent the tubing for the 180 degree angle. No problem swivelling the hinged heater 90-110 degrees. Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com 66 Airstream Safari Mira Mar Mobile Park Oceanside, CA - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Combs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [VACList] Re: Heaters > How do you do this without stressing/weakening > the heater's copper gas feed? > > Jimbo / '76 Sovereign > > -----Original Message----- > From: My Airstream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Hinges are the only way to go with the CAT. They allow you to direct the > >heat into the space where it is needed. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:52:59 -0800 (PST) From: jon fitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge What sort of gas line do you use when the CAT heater is mounted on a hinge? Strangely, I have never seen a flex line for the appliances, although they make them for hooking up LP bottles. Jon in SC 68 Overlander __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:40:56 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest Greetings Stuart! Sorry to learn of the mishap. I don't know that you would be anywhere near the repair shop that repaired the damage on my '64 Overlander that resulted from an encounter with a gatepost. If you are in the vicinity of Cedar Falls, Iowa, I am very pleased with the repairs performed by Ace Fogdall RV on University Avenue (5424 University Avenue). They are an Airstream dealer, and have always been quite accommodating when I have had problems. The damage on my coach was a series of four parallel creases so straightening wasn't an option - - panel replacement, or more precisely panel overlay was the option that I chose. Ace Fogdall's web site can be found: http://www.acefogdallrv.com/ Kevin Allen WBCCI/VAC #6359 1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K1500 Suburban 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (Towcar-In-Training) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest > > Recently, our '56 Airstream Caravanner was damaged in the front end. A truck > backed into it. Point of impact is just below and left of lower left window > corner. Precisely over a structural member which frames the side if the window > opening. It pushed the frame inward about 2" along with the exterior and > interior skins. The sofa shelf was damaged as well. No skin puncture or wrinkle. > I have seen substantial dents carefully removed from other injured airstreams, > and I believe there will be no need for replacement metal. Probable disassembly > and reassemble. Can anyone recommend a responsible repair station for such a > problem? Email pics are available. > > Thanks for the help, > > Stuart Smith > '56 Caravanner > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:43:38 -0800 From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge Jon, All I can tell you is that the corrugated line is half inch and I bought the complete line with fittings (already attached) that match the WAV 3 at a True Value hardware store. Any body else with hinged CAT's have the answer? Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com 66 Airstream Safari Mira Mar Mobile Park Oceanside, CA - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jon fitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:52 PM Subject: [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge > What sort of gas line do you use when the CAT heater > is mounted on a hinge? Strangely, I have never seen a > flex line for the appliances, although they make them > for hooking up LP bottles. > > Jon in SC > 68 Overlander > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:04:33 -0700 From: "Randy Unter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Heaters I installed two Olympian heaters in my '66 Overlander, the small one in the rear bath, the mid-sized one (6000 btu) by the front door. Normally, in Colorado's mountains during the summer, I use the rear small one at night, set on low with the rear vent and an opposite window cracked. It keeps the chill off nicely, consumes practically no propane. In the morning, I turn up the small one and fire up the front one for a quick warmup. I have used these heaters in a snowstorm, and they have provided good comfort. I won't have a furnace, noisy, drying, and battery draining. I too have a '73 Sovereign, and will pull the orig. furnace and install two cat heaters, front and rear. I had CW do it on my Overlander and they did a nice job. Randy Unter '66 Overlander '73 Sovereign ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 15:20:29 -0800 From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge > What sort of gas line do you use when the CAT heater > is mounted on a hinge? Strangely, I have never seen a > flex line for the appliances, although they make them > for hooking up LP bottles. > > Jon in SC > 68 Overlander Hi Jon: I just did a little Google search for flexible propane hoses and came up with a typical installation arrangement from of all people, Olympian. You might ake a look at: http://www.rvsolarelectric.com/heaters2.htm GQ '67 Safari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:55:57 -0500 From: Jim Dunmyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: CAT heater on a hinge Jon, You'd use a hose. Our cat was purchased as a "portable", with feet and a hose w/QD fittings. We plug it in when we want to use it. I'm strongly considering mounting it in the more-common manner, on a hinge. <<Jim>> jon fitz wrote: > What sort of gas line do you use when the CAT heater > is mounted on a hinge? Strangely, I have never seen a > flex line for the appliances, although they make them > for hooking up LP bottles. > > Jon in SC > 68 Overlander > > - -- <<http://www.oldengine.org/members/jdunmyer>> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> <<lower SE Michigan, USA>> <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> ------------------------------ End of VACList Digest V3 #21 **************************** When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html