VACList Digest Sunday, December 8 2002 Volume 03 : Number 036
When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html Topics in Today's Digest: Re: [VACList] A tow vehicle question Re: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #33 [VACList] Crate Engines [VACList] Ding King [VACList] Argosy Fans - - 20', 22', and 24' Models Have Been Identified [VACList] Clear coat Re: [VACList] White Laminate Tambour Alternatives [VACList] "Marty" the Vintage Puller Re: [VACList] Clear coat [VACList] LP space heater? Re: [VACList] White Laminate Tambour Alternatives [VACList] electrical question Re: [VACList] electrical question [VACList] Re:383 Stroker Engine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 08:58:54 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VACList] A tow vehicle question Listees- Thanks Once again for the valuable help, and assistance with the Crate engine issue. I will go this route this June. This list is great and offers some of the best help anyone with Aluminum fever could hope for. Happy Holidays everyone- Alex In Indiana 66 Safari & Overlander #8728 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:35:32 -0800 From: Rik & Susan Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #33 I had a 1975 for quite a while. A great old rig, and good for towing. However, they rust badly, especially around the windshield (and even here in California where we don't salt the roads). Best regards, Rik David Turner wrote: > Hello, > >Has any of you Airstreamers had any experience with the International >Travelall > >that was used several years befor they quit producing them? > >I was thinking about looking into one to pull my Vintage Airstream. > >Thanks for any comments. > >David Turner >1958 Custom 21' >1960 Pacer 17' [For Sale] >1971 Caravel 18' [For Sale] >1964 Bambi ll 17' [For Sale] > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > >To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to >http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 15:44:16 -0600 From: Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Crate Engines Alex: Edelbrock has just what you want: 350s in trims that range from 310-425 horsepower. But be prepared to spend some big money, and not to be smog legal. For more info: http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/crate_engines_intro.html Dan Weeks 86 Caprice Wagon 75 Argosy 26 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (VACList Digest) > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 05:00:07 -0800 (PST) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: VACList Digest V3 #35 > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 13:46:02 -0800 From: Rik & Susan Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Ding King Has anyone use the Ding King dent removal tool on their Airstream? How did it work, and did the glue damage the clear coat? Best regards, Rik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:11:31 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Argosy Fans - - 20', 22', and 24' Models Have Been Identified It is interesting how this hobby can open up so many new avenues of interest. After purchasing my 6.0 Metre (20') Argosy Minuet in August, I learned that the factory had advertised 6.7 Metre (22'), and a 7.4 Metre (24') Minuet. Photos of the 20' Minuet can be accessed at: http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=47&thumb=1 http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=713&thumb=1 http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=1294&thumb=1 http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=827&thumb=1 Photos of the 22' Minuet can be accessed at: http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=1028&thumb=1 http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=738&thumb=1 Photos of the 24' Minuet can be accessed at: http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=1208&thumb=1 Another trailer that I ran across while doing research on the Minuets was a 1980 Airstream Carvelle - - the first one that I have ever encountered, and it was located not too far from where I live. Its photos can be seen at: http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=885&thumb=1 I don't know how many Argosy fans are subscribers to the list, but thought that these links might interest any who are out there. Kevin Kevin Allen WBCCI/VAC #6359 1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (Towcar-in-Training) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:07:46 -0700 From: "Mike Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Clear coat I have a 75 Land Yacht, it needs to be recoated. Anybody have any suggestions? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 08:38:27 -0700 From: "Kenneth E. Johansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] White Laminate Tambour Alternatives Kevin Not sure I have an answer, but have two thoughts. I've seen somewhere where someone successfully cut 1/8 in plywood strips and used those for tambour. Not sure it would look great, but perhaps they could be painted to an acceptable look. You can get it in all kinds of woods so maybe one would look OK. I don't know if the aluminum would cause excess or faster wear the plastic "runners" or whatever you call those things that the tambour rolls on. I've had success repairing some of my wood colored ones using artists canvas (sp?) and Elmers white glue. I wonder if that would fix the bulge. I'm interested in this because I've wondered myself what I was going to do when my white tambour wears out. Ken Johansen 5358 59 Traveler 75 Tradewind > >I am struggling with decisions regarding the white laminate tambour in my >'78 Argosy Minuet. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:10:42 -0800 From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] "Marty" the Vintage Puller After all you folks have done to help me with my vintage puller I finally got web page ready to show her off. I call her "Marty". I will be happy to answer questions. Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com 66 Airstream Safari Mira Mar Mobile Park Oceanside, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 20:14:42 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Clear coat Greetings Mike! I don't think that you would be disappointed by the quality of work performed by the Ruths in Helena, Ohio. Their P & S Trailer Service did an excellent job polishing and plasticoating my '64 Overlander. If you would like to see some photos of the before and after, you can follow the link below: http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=827&thu mb=1 The job was finished just a little less than one year ago and I am thrilled with the results. They are not the least costly alternative, but they have a reputation for providing excellent service for several decades. I think that their average cost is somewhere near $175.00 per linear foot as measured from the coupler to the rear bumper. Kevin Kevin Allen WBCCI/VAC #6359 1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado (Towcar-in-Training) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: [VACList] Clear coat > I have a 75 Land Yacht, it needs to be recoated. Anybody have any suggestions? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 21:18:45 -0500 From: "dave cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] LP space heater? I was at Lowes (home-depot type home improvement chain) the other day, and they have an LP space heater, approved for use inside a residence (some kind of O2 or CO2 sensor makes it 'safe') I think the brand was 'Mr. Heater' and it costs about 100$ Any thoughts from the list? Dave Cole 532 Kinsley Ave, Box 27 Providence, RI 02909 401.831.0945 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.openarts.org/davecole ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 20:28:58 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] White Laminate Tambour Alternatives Greetings Ken! I have been trying to avoid the painting option if at all possible - - the one thing that I have been considering is splurging on white oak tambour and pickling it so that it will nearly match the off-white of the laminate. I still haven't entirely ruled out the brushed aluminum tambour, and have inquired of the manufacturer regarding special needs regarding the mounting tracks. I also asked the same manufacturer about the availability of white or off-white laminate tambour - - they carry some but all of their products show dark edges where the slats are beveled and I really want to retain the consistent white/off-white color if I don't go with the brushed aluminum tambour. Since I am not doing the tambour restoration myself, I am trying to minimize the amount of labor required for the job, so I am not actively considering trying to repair the tambours that haven't begun to disintegrate. Casual observation would suggest that regluing to a stiff canvas material and then resizing the tambour for its opening might remove the bulge, but my concern is the logevity of the material given the presence of serious cracking, fraying, splitting, and splintering in three of the six roof locker tambours in my Minuet. I can't account for the explanation, but the tambour in the medicine cabinet as well as below the bathroom sink seems to be nearly perfect. The woodtone veneer tambour below the kitchen sink also has fared much better than the off-white tambour in the roof lockers. Thanks for the input - - this is still a decision in process! Kevin Kevin Allen WBCCI/VAC #6359 1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado Convertible (Towcar-in-Training) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenneth E Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [VACList] White Laminate Tambour Alternatives > Kevin > > Not sure I have an answer, but have two thoughts. > > I've seen somewhere where someone successfully cut 1/8 in plywood strips > and used those for tambour. Not sure it would look great, but perhaps they > could be painted to an acceptable look. You can get it in all kinds of > woods so maybe one would look OK. > > I don't know if the aluminum would cause excess or faster wear the plastic > "runners" or whatever you call those things that the tambour rolls on. > > I've had success repairing some of my wood colored ones using artists > canvas (sp?) and Elmers white glue. I wonder if that would fix the bulge. > > I'm interested in this because I've wondered myself what I was going to do > when my white tambour wears out. > > Ken Johansen > 5358 > 59 Traveler > 75 Tradewind ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 22:06:44 -0500 From: "Dick Parins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] electrical question The installation instructions for my new water heater are very specific that if used with a converter there must be a battery in line and the converter power must be "filtered (pure DC)". The instructions say to test the circuit by using a multimeter set on the AC voltage scale. It says "If the reading is more than 1/2 volt, the circuit is not DC voltage and should not be used." My converter is a new 40 amp Intellipower 9100 with a charge wizard. It is supposed to be filtered but I thought I'd check. My multitester indicated about 27 volts on the AC scale with the battery connected and the converter on, It appeared to give the same reading with the power to the converter switched off and on a 12 volt battery which was completely disconnected. Can someone tell me what's happening here? Two possibilities come to mind: I am doing something completely wrong or my old inexpensive "multitester" does not do the same thing a modern "multimeter" does. Any help would be appreciated. I really don't want to fry the electronics in this water heater. Dick '62 Bambi - -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 21:45:28 -0600 From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] electrical question Not all multitesters are good at separating AC from DC. I suspect yours will show that same 27 volts while hooked to a battery without the charger (a source of PURE DC). The ripple voltage reading is only valid if the tester has a series capacitor so it reads AC only. My fancy Simpson's read DC voltages (wrongly) on AC except when I use the separate "output" connection for the positive lead that goes through a capacitor for just such measurements. Its not so much a difference between "Modern" and "ault" multitesters and a fundamental design difference that has always confused that measurement. Gerald J. - -- Entire content copyright Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer. Reproduction by permission only. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 01:56:29 -0500 From: "Don McKelvay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Re:383 Stroker Engine Hi Alex, By now I think you have received a lot ideas about replacement engines. I have a 1987 1/2 ton Suburban and on the WBCCI Alyeska Caravan I threw a rod and had to replace the engine. Luckily I had talked at length with the Chev dealer in Calgary, Alberta before the trip and after the engine blew confirmed with the very skilled mechanic in Dawson City, Yukon that a 383 stroker (crate) would be a great replacement - especially as I was not pleased with the towing capability of the 350 pulling my 8900 lb trailer. I had the engine flown in and installed - a fair amount of work as many of the components had to be adjusted. It cost about 50 % more than a standard 350, but with a huge increase to 330 hp and 425 lbs of torque. In the end it cost me about $7,500 US installed. The only problems I had were I had to go to Superchips in Florida for a computer chip ($450 US)for the engine as Chev/GM do not have one, the distributor gear cam needed to be upgraded to a stronger one and I found out just as the engine was about to be finished, the paperwork state the engine was not intended for street or highway use and may not meet emission standards. Fortunately, when I had it tested in Ontario it was rated a "hot rod" tested to 1980 carburator standards and get this, with absolutely no emission controls, it passed with flying colours. That might have been in part due to the new catalytic converter I had replace a month before. With the money I have invested in this I will have to drive it till I die, luckily the body is in perfect condition. If you need any further information, feel free to contact me off-line. Don McKelvay #6939 1993 34' Limited 1987 Suburban "Hot Rod" > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 11:07:44 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [VACList] A tow vehicle question > > Hello All- > > It off season for me and so I am planning next year's restoration activities. > I am going to drop in a "crate engine" for my 1988 GMC 2500 Suburban which I > love. The original is beginning to show its age, high miles, and taste for > oil. > > Where in the world does one get a "Crate Engine" ? I know lots about > rebuilds, and ordering from Jasper engine rebuilders among others. Where do > you find a new engine in a crate? > > I looking to get next summer (June before the International) a 5.7 ltr (350) > GMC engine. Any direction will be greatly appreciated. > > Alex in Indiana > 66 Safari & Overlander > 8728 > > ------------------------------ > ------------------------------ End of VACList Digest V3 #36 **************************** When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
