VACList Digest Friday, December 20 2002 Volume 03 : Number 048
When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html Topics in Today's Digest: [VACList] Generator [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #47 Re: [VACList] Generator Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager RE: [VACList] Generator Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators Re: Re: [VACList] Brake controlers Re: Re: [VACList] Brake controlers Re: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement Re: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement RE: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement Re: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:34:49 -0700 From: "Randy Unter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Generator Wow, seems like expensive overkill. Why do you need a 4K or 6K MH gen for your TW? Especially the cost. The Honda 3K inverter (Generator Model#: EU3000 ) is a quieter and less costly option that will run an a/c and charge the battery(s) for less than $1800. http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId =6970&langId=-1&catalogId=4006970&PHOTOS=on&TEST=Y&productId=34985&categoryI d=280776 I've heard Roger Hightower's run in the back of his truck; it is so quiet (58 db), it's barely noticeable standing 10-feet away, yet produces clean inverter power. It also only weighs 144 lbs. Randy Unter '66 Overlander '73 Sovereign Denver dDate: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 19:20:25 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VACList] Generators The Honda 4000watt 33.5 amp is mdel ev4010 the 6ooo watt 50 amp is ev6010Both are liquid cooled. I found them in Northern Tool &Equipment Co @002 Spruing and summer master catalog. Page 9. Item #16949-896 DEiscount price$2199.99 item # 16950-8968 $2699.99 Phone 1-800-556-7885 WWW>Northern Tool.com his price does nor include gas tank or muffler. these units are primarly made to fit in the generator compartment of motor homes. This is not aprovlem as i will build a storage box to mount on the A frame of my trailer as i did fotr the present unit.will route the exaustvto the rear of the trailer I will have to buy a 10 gal gas tank northern has them at about $70.00 Jim Smith 1965 Tradewind (The Silver Abaltross) 1992 dodge Cummins Diesel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:35:43 -0700 From: Don Binkley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Re: VACList Digest V3 #47 Brake controllers: The best that I have used has been the JORDAN electronic fully adjustable brake controller. It is manually attacted by a control wire to your brake pedal swing arm and applies increasing current to the brakes as the brake pedal is depressed ie. like having a potientometer directly tied to your brake pedal...LED digital readout of miniamperes on the box and very easy to install. don b. 69 Caravel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:09:32 -0800 From: "Gary Quamen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Generator > Wow, seems like expensive overkill. Why do you need a 4K or 6K MH gen for > your TW? Especially the cost. The Honda 3K inverter (Generator Model#: > EU3000 ) is a quieter and less costly option that will run an a/c and charge > the battery(s) for less than $1800. Howdy: Why not get TWO EU2000i Hondas and run them in tandem when the other 2000W is needed? 4000 quiet watts for $1690 (all day, shipped) weighing less than 100 lbs for the pair. Check out: http://alamia.com/dir/490.html Later, GQ '67 Safari in soggy CA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:15:33 -0500 From: Blair Prestin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Tekonsha Voyager Dick - Don't rule out the Ultima 2020. I've had it in several vehicles and for me there is NO OTHER! Blair At 11:14 AM 12/17/2002 -0500, you wrote: >I understand that the Tekonsha Prodigy or the Hayes Lemmerz with >remote are generally preferred by members of the VACList but I am >wondering if anyone can share their experience with the Tekonsha >Voyager and/or Envoy on a small trailer. Thanks. > >Dick >'62 Bambi >-- >__________________________________________________________ >Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >Meet Singles >http://corp.mail.com/lavalife > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > >To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to >http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:37:11 -0600 From: lefty frizzell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [VACList] Generator Those $1600 generators are not rated for continuous service...when overworked they have the life expectancy of a grape on the floor. Spend a little more and get one that will last. Lefty Frizzell http://home.earthlink.net/~leftyfrizzell **** I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow is not looking too good either. **** - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gary Quamen Sent: December 19, 2002 14:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VACList] Generator Why not get TWO EU2000i Hondas and run them in tandem when the other 2000W is needed? 4000 quiet watts for $1690 (all day, shipped) weighing less than 100 lbs for the pair. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:04:31 -0500 From: Chris Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] FW: Vermont/Generators [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >when I went all electric on my trailer I first used a 3000 watt diesel >generator I found it was not realy up to the task also had other provlems >that were too difficult to deal with. I am replacing with a Honda RV >generator it is pricey but I think it will fill the bill. It is a twin cyl >liquid cooledVery compact I am torn between the 4000 watt and the 6000 watt >the price diff is $500 the larger unit weighs 216 ld and the smaller unit is >208 lb.these units are avalable from Northerntool and equipment co. I've got to say that I'm *not* a big fan of the Honda RV generators. The ones I have had dealings with were generally noisier and more trouble prone than my trusty Onan Emerald I- though in all fairness, the ones I see are the ones having problems, and Hondas are not that popular in the RV models. I *do* like the portable inverter models, however. A really neat model is the Generac Impact 3600- 30 amps of 120 volt power, 88 lbs- inverter equipped, though I'm unsure about the reliability. When deciding about size, you really need to figure out how much power you need- will the whole rig run off a 30 amp outlet, or do you need more? If it will work with 30 amps, I would go with a 4000 watt model- nothing larger. The biggest problems with generators is not running them hard enough- the RV models are designed and built with a 100% duty cycle, at 100% output, and do not do well at lower than 50% load. - -- Chris Bryant mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:55:35 -0500 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [VACList] Brake controlers I checked around on the net before I bought my Prodigy. Found it on sale at Southwest Wheel and ordered it on line for $115.00 shipped to my door. Great controller too. I LOVE it. Bobby Gill '73 Ambassador '02 Suburban 4X4 > > From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/12/18 Wed PM 04:43:26 EST > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [VACList] Brake controlers > > What are the cost factors on these controllers . . . . as opposed to an $85 > electrical controller from Uhaul. > > Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com > 66 Airstream Safari > Mira Mar Mobile Park > Oceanside, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JRKleven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:29 PM > Subject: [VACList] Brake controlers > > > > There has been a lot of interest lately on the Prodigy and Voyager and > just > > thought I would offer anybody needing either at lower price then any > > retailer. I get them through my business. The Voyager is adequate for > most > > applications and the trailer weight is not really the issue but rather the > > way they work Both use inertia activated proportional technology but the > > Prodigy is the only one that has "Smart control" which is the same > features > > in reverse to prevent that jerking while backing. It also has a quick > > disconnect for storage and theft protection and automatic level adjustment > > for varying terrain. If you are looking for a Voyager, don't buy the XP > > model unless you have three or four axles as that is the difference > between > > the standard Voyager and the XP. Contact me off list if you are > interested > > in either. > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:42:25 -0600 From: "JRKleven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Re: [VACList] Brake controlers That was a good deal, but right now they have it for 124.95. I am offering it for 120.00. Best I can do. Randy - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Re: [VACList] Brake controlers > I checked around on the net before I bought my Prodigy. Found it on sale at Southwest Wheel and ordered it on line for $115.00 shipped to my door. Great controller too. I LOVE it. > Bobby Gill > '73 Ambassador > '02 Suburban 4X4 > > > > From: "My Airstream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2002/12/18 Wed PM 04:43:26 EST > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [VACList] Brake controlers > > > > What are the cost factors on these controllers . . . . as opposed to an $85 > > electrical controller from Uhaul. > > > > Bob Kiger http://cruiserbob.com > > 66 Airstream Safari > > Mira Mar Mobile Park > > Oceanside, CA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "JRKleven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:29 PM > > Subject: [VACList] Brake controlers > > > > > > > There has been a lot of interest lately on the Prodigy and Voyager and > > just > > > thought I would offer anybody needing either at lower price then any > > > retailer. I get them through my business. The Voyager is adequate for > > most > > > applications and the trailer weight is not really the issue but rather the > > > way they work Both use inertia activated proportional technology but the > > > Prodigy is the only one that has "Smart control" which is the same > > features > > > in reverse to prevent that jerking while backing. It also has a quick > > > disconnect for storage and theft protection and automatic level adjustment > > > for varying terrain. If you are looking for a Voyager, don't buy the XP > > > model unless you have three or four axles as that is the difference > > between > > > the standard Voyager and the XP. Contact me off list if you are > > interested > > > in either. > > > Randy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > > > > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > > > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:42:01 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VACList] Courtesy Parking: Pending The sewing machine question - the wife of the couple is on another list about antique sewing machines that I am on - We collect and use people powered sewing machines, hand cranks and treadles. So I wanted to know how many sewing machines would go to NM with them? I bought my first people powered sewing machine for use in my AS - now I own over 30 sewing machines, only one of which goes camping with me.LOL! So you see that the question was on topic- I choose to use an old technology instead of using a generator to sew when I camp. Just Plain Polly 1964 Globe Trotter Colorado WBCCI 7113 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 03:51:23 -0800 From: Rik & Susan Beeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement Hello Folks, I went back to Alabama to get my new-to-me 1983 Airstream motorhome, and found that is has a bad rod bearing. I would like to put in a Target or Mr. Goodwrench engine, but the upshot of dozens of phone calls is that GMC/Chevy doesn't have the carbureted 454 motorhome engine available any longer - it's too OLD! Kind of like me. The coach is presently in Huntsville, AL, in the northern part of the state. I love the rig, and, one way or another, WILL get a good motor in it and bring it home to Santa Cruz, CA. Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best regards, and Merry Christmas, Rik ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 05:18:28 -0700 From: "Mike Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement I woul'd suggest taking the engine to a competent builder that is of good reputation and offers a 3/ 36000 or 5/50000 yr/mile warranty. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rik & Susan Beeson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:51 AM Subject: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement > Hello Folks, > > I went back to Alabama to get my new-to-me 1983 Airstream motorhome, and > found that is has a bad rod bearing. I would like to put in a Target or > Mr. Goodwrench engine, but the upshot of dozens of phone calls is that > GMC/Chevy doesn't have the carbureted 454 motorhome engine available any > longer - it's too OLD! Kind of like me. > > The coach is presently in Huntsville, AL, in the northern part of the > state. I love the rig, and, one way or another, WILL get a good motor in > it and bring it home to Santa Cruz, CA. > > Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Best regards, and Merry Christmas, > > Rik > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text > > To unsubscribe or change to an digest format, please go to > http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 06:49:18 -0600 From: lefty frizzell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement You got that right. The last thing you need is for your new engine to blow 200 miles from Joe Schmutluck's Rebuilt Engine and Sausage shop. Bite the bullet and get something that will last. There's no way you can tell me you can't find a rebuilt 454 engine...there too many made and too many currently on the road. Stay away from the "we can get you a Thunderbolt engine for $995. Lefty Frizzell http://home.earthlink.net/~leftyfrizzell **** I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow is not looking too good either. **** - -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Nelson Sent: December 20, 2002 06:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement I woul'd suggest taking the engine to a competent builder that is of good reputation and offers a 3/ 36000 or 5/50000 yr/mile warranty. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:52:16 -0500 From: Chris Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [VACList] Motorhome engine replacement Rik & Susan Beeson wrote: >I went back to Alabama to get my new-to-me 1983 Airstream motorhome, and >found that is has a bad rod bearing. I would like to put in a Target or >Mr. Goodwrench engine, but the upshot of dozens of phone calls is that >GMC/Chevy doesn't have the carbureted 454 motorhome engine available any >longer - it's too OLD! Kind of like me. http://www.jasperengines.com/frames.html - a quality rebuilt can be every bit as good as a new engine. - -- Chris Bryant mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of VACList Digest V3 #48 **************************** When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://airstream.net/vaclist/listoffice.html
