I suggest you both review all of the "awesome new features" that Visual Studio 2008 came with, and that 2010 is supposed to have. Then walk around and tout VIm/Emacs, and how their intellisense uses bayesian probability based on github and similar projects to yours to not only provide a syntax and error checking, but actually propose to refactor existing code into your application.
void main(argv **wahtever)<tab> INSTANTLY turns into a web2.0 croud sourced wikienhanced application. Lets see your holy visual studio do that level of code completion. Then fake demos on how VIm/Emacs can do the rest of what VS2010 can do, for free, since 1990. They might be skeptical at first -- but they wont know you are down right crazy until they get home. Stan On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Paul Flint <fl...@flint.com> wrote: > Dear Brian, > > How bout the KDE / Gnome thing, or the rpm / deb thing... > > Let's go! > > Regards, > > Flint > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Brian Hunter wrote: > > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:45:24 -0400 >> From: Brian Hunter <br...@huntercreative.com> >> Reply-To: Vermont Area Group of Unix Enthusiasts <VAGUE@list.uvm.edu> >> To: VAGUE@LIST.UVM.EDU >> Subject: Re: Every party needs a pooper... >> >> Well, you can always start an emacs vs. vi discussion in the hallway. Of >> course that could also be tantamount to pulling a fire alarm . . . >> >> >> >> On Sep 4, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Bradley Holt wrote: >> >> Uh oh, looks like Flint will be heckling me during my REST talk. I'll >>> be sure to charge my Taser ;-) >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Paul Flint<fl...@flint.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Greetings Brian, Josh, and the rest of the List Lurkers, >>>> >>>> Based upon the Vague vibe I am getting from I have signed up and intend >>>> to >>>> be there. I am particularly interested in REST as well as Josh's talk >>>> on >>>> Django. Could someone remember to bring my meds? >>>> >>>> ...or a Taser... >>>> >>>> :^) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Flint >>>> >>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Brian Hunter wrote: >>>> >>>> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:26:54 -0400 >>>>> From: Brian Hunter <br...@huntercreative.com> >>>>> Reply-To: Vermont Area Group of Unix Enthusiasts <VAGUE@list.uvm.edu> >>>>> To: VAGUE@LIST.UVM.EDU >>>>> Subject: Re: VT Code Camp (9/12) Prelim Session List >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:22 AM, Josh Sled wrote: >>>>> >>>>> hunterCreative <br...@huntercreative.com> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just signed up. Actually, I'm interested in the Django talk and never >>>>>>> having >>>>>>> been to one of these, I am clueless as to the format of the >>>>>>> sessions. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I've not been to a Code Camp, either, but I imagine it'll be a pretty >>>>>> standard low-ceremony "unconference" … a big schedule matrix of >>>>>> rooms/topics/times with lots of room for hallway conversation and >>>>>> breaks >>>>>> for coffee/lunch/snacks. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I assume you are planning on using Windows/IIS as the platform for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> session >>>>>>> since it is a .net event. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Heh heh. Oh, hell no. ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Note that it is not a ".NET event", per se. While the Code Camps do >>>>>> primarily come out of the .net user group scene, the event itself is >>>>>> implicitly platform- and technology-agnostic by being explicitly >>>>>> community-interest-driven. >>>>>> http://www.thedevcommunity.org/codecamps/manifesto.aspx >>>>>> >>>>>> So, no, I'll be presenting using emacs on my ubuntu-running EEE. :) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> SNAP!! That IS good to hear, although I would have been interested to >>>>> see >>>>> someone give the django tour on a windows OS. Kinda like watching the >>>>> circus: I don't really want to do it myself, just want to see someone >>>>> else >>>>> pull it off. >>>>> >>>>> At the same time, major kudos to the vt.net and BTV PHP folks who >>>>>> have >>>>>> been doing the organization. They're putting on a full-day, >>>>>> completely >>>>>> free, well sponsored, hard-core technical conference, with free food >>>>>> and >>>>>> swag, roping in speakers from mostly near and some far. It's shaping >>>>>> up >>>>>> to be pretty cool, and I hope it'll draw in a good number of technical >>>>>> folks of all stripes from the state and region. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Yeah, have to agree with that, major kudos, looks very nice and thought >>>>> out! Lots of good stuff and I'll be keeping an eye on the session >>>>> listing >>>>> going forward. Secretly (or not) hoping there is time to check out all >>>>> the >>>>> things I am interested in:) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>>> ...jsled >>>>>> http://asynchronous.org/ - a=jsled; b=asynchronous.org; echo ${a}@ >>>>>> ${b} >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Kindest Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul Flint >>>> (802) 479-2360 >>>> >>>> >>>> /************************************ >>>> Based upon email reliability concerns, >>>> please send an acknowledgment in response to this note. >>>> >>>> Paul Flint >>>> Barre Open Systems Institute >>>> 17 Averill Street >>>> Barre, VT >>>> 05641 >>>> >>>> http://www.bosivt.org >>>> http://www.flint.com/home >>>> skype: flintinfotech >>>> Work: (202) 537-0480 >>>> >>>> Consilium _ >>>> gratuitum .~. ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) >>>> valet /V\ against HTML e-mail X >>>> quanti /( )\ www.asciiribbon.org / \ >>>> numerantur ^^-^^ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://bradley-holt.blogspot.com/ >>> >> >> > Kindest Regards, > > > > Paul Flint > (802) 479-2360 > > > /************************************ > Based upon email reliability concerns, > please send an acknowledgment in response to this note. > > Paul Flint > Barre Open Systems Institute > 17 Averill Street > Barre, VT > 05641 > > http://www.bosivt.org > http://www.flint.com/home > skype: flintinfotech > Work: (202) 537-0480 > > Consilium _ > gratuitum .~. ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) > valet /V\ against HTML e-mail X > quanti /( )\ www.asciiribbon.org / \ > numerantur ^^-^^
