I'd forgotten that. For the record, I think my prediction was that Henning would become an ASF officer sometime in the next year or two, which as VP of Velocity he will be.
Anyway, the plan sounds great. We probably need a formal vote at some point. When is that? Nathan, I'll let you call for it at the right stage. I suggest we think about (informal) 6 month or 1 year terms and rotate among involved committers. That will allow us to share the workload a bit. My impression this mostly involves reports to the board, Velocity advocacy, and general community-building activities. Not that one needs to be a chair to do the last two. Best, WILL On 9/15/06, Nathan Bubna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Excellent! I wouldn't want Will to be wrong. :) I'll update the draft to propose you as our first chair. Now, since no one has made any other critiques/comments on it, i'm guessing it must be good to go. What's the next step? Martin, do you take this to the board for us? On 9/15/06, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah well, why not? It would actually fulfill Wills' prediction from a few > months ago. And as you said "I have no time" is not exactly a valid > excuse around here... :-) > > Best regards > Henning > > Nathan Bubna schrieb: > > Ok, thinking about where i want to put my time here... > > > > With Velocity 1.5 approaching and a Struts 1.3.5 being declared GA > > shortly (as well as all the Struts 2 work), i want to upgrade > > VelocityStruts and try to get a VelocityTools 1.3 out this winter > > (Marino, are you out there? Can you help?) > > > > So, Henning or Will, if either of you are willing to take the first > > stint as Velocity chair; that would free up a lot more time to get > > VelocityTools up to speed. If you're not, then i'll do it, and we > > might just have to wait a bit longer for VelocityTools 1.3. > > > > Whaddaya think? Either of you wanna volunteer? Henning, you started > > this TLP push; wanna take the reins first? :) > > > > On 9/13/06, Henning P. Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Will Glass-Husain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> >Ha. Knew you were going to get in trouble for doing the legwork, > >> Nathan. > >> > >> >I'd definitely support that. Or Henning would be great too. > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> If Nathan wants to do it: More power to Nathan! > >> > >> Best regards > >> Henning > >> > >> > >> > >> >If we wanted to rotate it every 6 months, I'd be happy to take a turn. > >> > But maybe a little later rather than being first. > >> > >> >WILL > >> > >> >On 9/11/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Nathan, > >> >> > >> >> Looks ok and I would definitely let general know (although you did > >> put this on the wiki). Also it > >> >> would be nice to see a name of the chair. Any chance of your name > >> being there ? (or you could have a > >> >> vote on that) > >> >> > >> >> Mvgr, > >> >> Martin > >> >> > >> >> Nathan Bubna wrote: > >> >> > Sorry this took so long... > >> >> > > >> >> > http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/TLPVelocity > >> >> > ==================== > >> >> > Establish the Apache Velocity Project > >> >> > > >> >> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests > >> >> > of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to > >> >> > establish a Project Management Committee charged with the > >> creation and > >> >> > maintenance of open-source software related to the Velocity template > >> >> > engine, for distribution at no charge to the public. > >> >> > > >> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > >> >> > (PMC), to be known as the "Velocity PMC", be and hereby is > >> established > >> >> > pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > >> >> > > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the Velocity PMC be and hereby is responsible for the > >> >> > creation and maintenance of software related to the Velocity > >> template > >> >> > engine; and be it further > >> >> > > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Velocity" be and > >> hereby > >> >> > is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction > >> >> > of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Velocity PMC, and to > >> >> > have primary responsibility for management of the projects within > >> the > >> >> > scope of responsibility of the Velocity PMC; and be it further > >> >> > > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby > >> are > >> >> > appointed to serve as the initial members of the Velocity PMC: > >> >> > > >> >> > * > >> >> > > >> >> > Will Glass-Husain ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> >> > * > >> >> > > >> >> > Geir Magnusson Jr. ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> >> > * > >> >> > > >> >> > Daniel L. Rall ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> >> > * > >> >> > > >> >> > Henning Schmiedehausen ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> >> > * > >> >> > > >> >> > Nathan Bubna ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> >> > * > >> >> > > >> >> > Marinó A. Jónsson ([MAILTO] [MAILTO] [EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> >> > > >> >> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX be appointed > >> to the > >> >> > office of Vice President, Velocity, to serve in accordance with and > >> >> > subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of > >> >> > the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or > >> >> > disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it > >> further > >> >> > > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the initial Velocity PMC be and hereby is tasked with > >> >> > the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open > >> development > >> >> > and increased participation in the Velocity Project; and be it > >> further > >> >> > > >> >> > RESOLVED, that the initial Velocity PMC be and hereby is tasked with > >> >> > the migration and rationalization of the Apache Jakarta Velocity, > >> >> > Velocity Tools and DVSL subprojects; and be it further > >> >> > > >> >> > RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Jakarta > >> Velocity, > >> >> > Velocity Tools, and DVSL subprojects and encumbered upon the Apache > >> >> > Jakarta PMC are hereafter discharged. > >> >> > ==================== > >> >> > > >> >> > How's it look? Did i miss anything? Should we ping > >> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] to let anyone who wants to join the > >> >> > initial PMC get on board? Since all Jakarta committers have > >> perms for > >> >> > Velocity now, i don't want to inadvertently exclude anyone who > >> wanted > >> >> > to work on Velocity but hadn't yet. > >> >> > > >> >> > On 8/31/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> I assume you already saw the proposals on the jakarta wiki (for > >> slide > >> >> >> & testing), so you can use > >> >> >> those as a template :) > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Mvgr, > >> >> >> Martin > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Nathan Bubna wrote: > >> >> >> > Yeah, it is. My apologies. I ran out of free time with > >> family in > >> >> >> > town and getting my house ready to be painted. :) I'll try to > >> get > >> >> >> > this moving again by early next week. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On 8/26/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> Maybe it's time to summarize and create the official proposal ? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Mvgr, > >> >> >> >> Martin > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Martin van den Bemt wrote: > >> >> >> >> > Apologies for totally missing / ignoring / forgetting the word > >> >> >> may... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Mvgr, > >> >> >> >> > Martin > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Nathan Bubna wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> On 8/26/06, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> Huh?? The only related statement of mine was not in my > >> initial > >> >> >> >> >> proposal and is really not far from what you're saying. 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