Thanks Mat! Chiming in with my two cents about the below. You are correct that 
Netflix typically doesn’t hold EDU rights for their straight acquisitions (they 
just impose some SERIOUS holdbacks), but this not the case for their Originals. 
For their Originals acquisitions, they take all rights, including educational. 
In the case of Audrie and Daisy, Netflix has the educational rights, and chose 
to work with Film Sprout to make the film available for classroom use for free. 
But as we all know, they have left out a crucial audience & licensing option 
that leaves many institutions without the access they need/want. Which is why 
this exact movement is so great!

I look forward to seeing this progress!!

Best,

Kristin


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On Dec 2, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Mathew Levy <m...@passionriver.com> wrote:

> Hello Team Videolib:
> 
> I think the issue here is not Netflix at all or FilmSprout who typically just 
> handles community screenings. 
> 
> Netflix does NOT hold EDU rights and doesn't seem to plan to at this point. I 
> had lunch with my buyer at Netflix 2 weeks ago and discussed this with him 
> specifically. If you want a film for EDU, the best method would be to contact 
> either the filmmaker specifically or a distributor who can help acquire the 
> film for your library.
> 
> An example of how this worked out perfectly was via a VideoLib post last year 
> when a librarian was looking for the Netflix title MY OWN MAN.
> 
> I had never heard of the film before, but after seeing a high interest from 
> libraries, found the filmmaker and acquired the rights directly, so I can 
> offer to libraries. Our company can easily make that contact as well as most 
> distributors on this e-mail chain.
> 
> We have worked with other Ava Duvernay documentaries in the past, so right 
> now I am in the process of contacting her production company to speak with 
> them directly about the high interest from educators. Hopefully, I can be an 
> outlet to help get the title offered to you if they don't have a company 
> locked in to do so yet. If they do, I will let you all know.  No promises, 
> just an e-mail and a phone call for now, but on the case!
> 
> Have a great weekend everyone!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Mat
> 
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Meghann Matwichuk <mtw...@udel.edu> wrote:
> I like the idea of a petition.  Who would we target?  Amazon (Prime) and 
> Netflix seem to be the primary 'offenders' right now.  (But there are 
> individual / self-distributors who are also only selling to individuals via 
> stream.)
> 
> Another possibility -- maybe a joint letter from VRT and NMM?  
> 
> Meredith and other vendor allies -- what do you think would be a good way for 
> those of us interested in making a joint statement to get the attention of 
> the right folks?
> 
> Alternately, it might be helpful to attach something like the joint letter or 
> a statement with a giant gob of signatories when we're all individually 
> contacting distributors.  Like, keep it on your desktop and just clip it to 
> any of these individual emails we might send when we advocate for educational 
> distribution.  "You might be interested to know that there are many who are 
> concerned about this issue, and are interested in purchasing hard copies and 
> educational licenses.  Please see the attached letter."
> 
> -- 
> 
> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
> Associate Librarian
> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
> Morris Library, University of Delaware
> 181 S. College Ave.
> Newark, DE 19717
> (302) 831-1475
> https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
> 
> On 12/2/2016 10:29 AM, Laura Jenemann wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I’m happy to add my voice.  Is there a group letter writing option?  
>> Change.org post?  Blog post option?  I may be able to help with the tech for 
>> this.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Once again, Ava DuVernay has gotten the ball rolling on an important topic.  
>> Why not keep it rolling?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Laura
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Laura Jenemann
>> 
>> Media, Film Studies & Dance Librarian
>> 
>> George Mason University Libraries
>> 
>> Email: ljene...@gmu.edu
>> 
>> Phone: 703-993-7593
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Wochna, Lorraine
>> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 6:05 PM
>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational 
>> Availability
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Meghann,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for such a thorough response. 
>> 
>> Yes, I agree and will challenge these distributors as well!
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> lorraine
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu 
>> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Meghann Matwichuk
>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:17 PM
>> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
>> Subject: [Videolib] 13th and Streaming Distribution w/o Educational 
>> Availability
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks for passing this along, Lorraine!!  This is exciting!  Although, it 
>> doesn't quite solve the problem of having a physical copy in our collection, 
>> or a streaming version to which we can provide access for our patrons who 
>> may not have a Netflix account.  I was just having a conversation about this 
>> (films produced by streaming services without any means for libraries to 
>> purchase hard copies or license) with the lovely Meredith Miller not a few 
>> hours ago, and just a week or two ago had an exchange with the distributors 
>> of the Netflix film Audrie and Daisy.  It went as follows:
>> 
>> Me: "Greetings, I am a media librarian at the University of Delaware 
>> Library. One of UD's student groups will be hosting a film screening of 
>> Audrie & Daisy soon, and we've already had requests that we add the film to 
>> our Library's collection so that it can be used in classes and made 
>> available for students to watch for research. Are there any plans to make 
>> Audrie & Daisy available for purchase on DVD soon, or via some other 
>> mechanism that allows institutional access?  I've personally watched the 
>> film via my own Netflix account, and I know it would be a great resource for 
>> our faculty and students. Thank you!"
>> 
>> Carla @ Filmsprout:  "Thanks so much for your note, and we're thrilled to 
>> hear that the Library is interested in the film. I'm so sorry, but currently 
>> there aren't plans to make the film available for institutional purchase 
>> because the film is already available for individual and private classroom 
>> use via the Netflix service. However, I'd be glad to let you know if 
>> anything changes!"
>> 
>> Me:  "Institutions are not able to subscribe to Netflix, so unfortunately we 
>> can't offer private classroom use via the Netflix service.  I hope that this 
>> may change in the near future, as we've been unable to provide equitable 
>> access to some excellent programming due to the models put forth by Amazon 
>> Prime, Netflix, etc.  Please do let me know if anything should change with 
>> 'Audrie & Daisy'."
>> 
>> Carla:  "Thank you for your note, and I hear you. I've shared your feedback 
>> with my team, and I will absolutely let you know if anything changes around 
>> institutional licensing for the film."
>> 
>> Several of us (myself, Lorraine, and a few others who may or may not be on 
>> VideoLib?) who attended National Media Market in October discussed this very 
>> thing over lunch one afternoon -- the need to advocate and raise awareness 
>> amongst the producers of films that fit into this growing category.  Towards 
>> that end, I'd encourage everyone to take the extra time to contact producers 
>> of films like 13th, Audrie & Daisy, Transparent, etc. when your students / 
>> instructors request them to help the producers understand the need for an 
>> educational distribution model that would allow us to provide access to 
>> these important films.  Clearly, Ms. DuVernay and the Filmsprout folks 
>> intend for these documentaries to be widely seen and utilized in educational 
>> settings -- they need to hear from us that we share that mission and need 
>> options to pay them for / license their content.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> -- 
>>  
>> Meghann Matwichuk, M.S.
>> Associate Librarian
>> Coordinator, Film & Video Collection
>> Morris Library, University of Delaware
>> 181 S. College Ave.
>> Newark, DE 19717
>> (302) 831-1475
>> https://library.udel.edu/filmandvideo
>> 
>> 
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
>> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
>> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
>> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
>> distributors.
> 
> 
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
> distributors.
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> 
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> 
> -- 
> --------------------------------------
> 
> Mathew Levy
> 
> Senior Director of Sales and Acquisitions
> 
> Passion River Films
> 
> 732-440-8100 x135
> 
> m...@passionriver.com
> 
> 
> 
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