I think Roman is right. I have spent enough time on this already and we have been over it all so many times in the past.

There is really nothing more I wish to say.

Monica


----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net> To: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>; "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; "Lex Eisenhardt" <eisenha...@planet.nl>
Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Carre 'Anche' - etc.........


Only the European Court at he Hague knows the principal issue here, and it issued a gag order apropos.
RT


----- Original Message ----- From: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; "Lex Eisenhardt" <eisenha...@planet.nl>
Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Carre 'Anche' - etc.........


  Hello you two,

  I've been away a couple of days: can you kindly remind me of the
  principal issue in this latest exchange? It surely can't be that you
  aim to base an entire case on Carre's book

  rgds

  Martyn

  From: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
  To: Lex Eisenhardt <eisenha...@planet.nl>
  Cc: Vihuelalist <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
  Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011, 13:59
  Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Carre 'Anche' -
  > February 1671 indeed. We know that the printing of Corbetta's book
  was completed 31 October 1671. We don't know what he has changed or
  added between September 1670 and October 1671.
  I think it unlikely that Corbetta would have changed anything after
  being granted the licences because publications were subject to
  censorship.  This was certainly the case in Spain  I am not sure of the
  details in France.
  Like for example the preface.
  > Carre's book could have been printed long before that date. If
  Corbetta knew the content of Carre's book he could easily have echoed
  the advice on the stringing of the fourth course.
  Whether he has echoed it or not is really immaterial.  It doesn't prove
  that Corbetta disagreed with Carre.
  > Carre's continuo examples are almost exclusively in pizzicato.
  Well - he hasn't indicated whether any of the chords should be strummed
  - probably for practical reasons to do with the printing..  But quite a
  few of them could be strummed.  A lot of the chords are in the wrong
  inversions e.g.the first four chords on G re sol have the G on the 3rd
  course and the notes on the fourth course will sound below them.  The
  first four chords on B fa si have the B flat on the fifth course where
  it will sound above the notes on the third and fourth fifth courses and
  so on.  I can't list them all.  Yes - he does seem to be confused as to
  which method of stringing he is using - or perhaps he is just using his
  common sense and placing them where it is practical to play them.
  Very
  > different from the usual Italian battuto-pizzicato approach, and
  Carre has certainly not copied this from Corbetta's 1671 book.
  Yes - I agree he didn't copy these from Corbetta.
  Monica
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