I could not use XL if I could not have column and row announced, especially column.
Best regards, Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 12:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Spreadsheet tips Exactly, I guess while it may be possible to use an iPad exclusively it certainly is not efficient and if even people like Jonathan Mosen who make a living being proficient on all sorts of platforms say that it is so much faster and more efficient to use Word for writing and editing then there must be something to it. I consider myself pretty proficient on an iPhone having used one for 9 years, but there is just no comparison when it comes to using a spreadsheet or even browsing the web. Having to turn the rotor to be able to go to HTML items like headings, tables, buttons, edit fields and so on is slower by magnitudes than pressing "H" for heading or numbers to go to headings of a specific level, finding a specific link using the links list or the virtual search feature if you know what you are looking for is super fast and I don't think there are even equivalent features in iOS for things like the links list, or lists of other HTML elements. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Denny Schwab Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 7:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Spreadsheet tips Changing the subject to capture the information in regard to spreadsheets and IPADS use. I too have significant doubts as to how someone using an IPAD would compare to someone using a PC to work with Excel. I tried Numbers, both on a MAC and an IPhone, but found it clunky at best. If someone can explain how to use Numbers or Excel on an IPad or Iphone in a comparable way as using one on a Windows PC I would very much love to hear about it. Excel has so many helpful key commands in Windows that IOS just can't duplicate, or at least does not duplicate. For instance, in working with a large spreadsheet, you can use home/(left,right,up,or down) to go to the last cell with data in which ever direction. That is simply something I have not seen any way of doing on IOS. This is not to mention all of the items listed in a previous post. Denny On 12/11/18, Ryan Mann <rm...@technologyisawesome.com> wrote: > Excel on a PC has keyboard commands to navigate spreadsheets and workbooks. > Examples: > Home key goes to the beginning of a row. > Control Home goes to the top of a spreadsheet. > Control pageup / page-down switches between workbooks. > Shift right arrow selects cells. > The equals sign starts a formula. > These are just some things that make excel quick and efficient on a PC. > Also, PC’s are easy to connect to work virtual private networks then > connect to a network shared drive and access spreadsheets stored > there. The iPhone and iPad can connect to some VPN’s, but the > protocol that my work’s VPN is set up for is not supported by IOS. I > forget what it is. I think it’s PPTP. I’m open to work arounds. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 11, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Ed Worrell <blindworr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I really don’t see why they couldn’t use the iPad in the same time >> frame or manner to do a simple spread sheet. That’s what a keyboard >> is for. Just because it has a touch screen it doesn’t mean that it >> can’t be done. My business partner has gone to using his iPad Pro for >> everything from spread sheets to typing client notes and yes even >> watching Netflix whilst on the road. It has become the all in one >> solution for him. He thought that he would miss having a mouse to >> navigate. This is now a non-issue for him. I understand everyones >> mileage will be different and yes he is visually impaired he uses >> Zoom this set up works and accomplishes everything he needs in a day. >> >> Ed W. >> >>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 12:08 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Then let's see how long it would take a blind person using Excel or >>> Numbers on an iOS device to accomplish a variety of tasks which >>> let's say would take me 1 hour in Excel on a PC. >>> I am thinking of setting up a workbook say with a separate sheet for >>> each day of the month where one would enter say sales amounts >>> including taxes, how much each day was sold using Visa, Mastercard, >>> American Express, Debit Card, Cash, Gift Certificates etc. At the >>> top of each sheet should be the date and it should be set up so that >>> if the date on the first day of the month is input, e.g. December 1, >>> it is displayed as Saturday, December 1, 2018 and then all other 30 >>> sheets in the workbook should have a formula referring to that date >>> field on the first sheet to display the correct date. Then sheet 1 >>> should actually be a summary sheet where all the values for each >>> field are added up so one would see monthly totals for sales volume, >>> returns, net sales, taxes, the various tenders etc. >>> I would be extremely surprised if the blind person using Excel or >>> Numbers on an iOS device can accomplish this in the same time as the >>> blind person using Excel on a PC with Jaws or whatever their choice >>> of screenreaderis. >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of KliphnShari Miller >>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 2:34 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A good option for those of you who want their iPad to >>> replace a laptop >>> >>> Well, I don’t use excel, but I do use numbers. And it’s accessible >>> with the iPad. I have friends that use excel though, and they swear >>> there never going back to windows or a desk top. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 4:01 PM, pdlloga...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> How well does things like Excel or Word work .. if you are using >>> them … or Pages and Numbers? >>> >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of KliphnShari Miller >>> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2018 4:25 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A good option for those of you who want their iPad to >>> replace a laptop >>> >>> I have went this rough for the last 6 months, and just got the 2018 >>> pro model, couldn’t grab the link for the USB-C hub though. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 2:40 PM, Kimberly <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, that's certainly interesting and a definite step in the >>> direction of the iPad being a fully functioning laptop substitute. >>> But speaking as a blind user, I can't see it happening for me unntil >>> the keyboard support in iOS is as robust as what I can have with my windows >>> laptop. >>> >>> >>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone >>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it >>> that we go on.—Annie Proulx >>> >>> On Dec 10, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>> Just came across this article and while I don't have an iPad and >>> can't see myself needing or wanting one in the near or medium >>> future, for those of you who do have one this might be interesting: >>> >>> iPad Pro's potential becomes clear with this $99 HyperDrive USB-C >>> hub >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V >>> iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >>> itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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