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> There is one sentence in your reply which makes me > puzzled. > > It is, > > -------- > M$Windows, this needs to be at the console, > for unix, there is no need, it might even not be possible > -------- > > Do you mean M$Windows, Desktop needs to be at the console, > for unix, desktop is no need, desktop might even not be possible? > > Or do you mean M$Windows, Desktop needs to be at the console, > for unix, desktop at console is no need, desktop > at console might even not be possible? The last one. For a more clear picture: a unix server most times does not have any keyboard or video card build in, it only has a serial port, labeled 'console'. You can hook a serial terminal to this port and see the boot messages and you can get a text-only login, about the same if you do a telnet to a unix machine. With this setup, you can imagine it is verry hard to get a desktop, or GraphicalUserInterface or such. There is just no hardware to do that. > > The pronouns realy makes me puzzled. Does it mean desktop or > desktop at console? What means "desktop at console" on earth? > When I see desktop, I do not see anything behind it. In my description, the desktop is what you see in a graphical user interface. On unix machines provided by display managers or windowmanagers like KDE, Gnome, CDE and such. On M$Windows machines, it's the windows. For the vnc part, on unix, vnc provides a software-graphical-user-interface that can be seen with vncviewer and used as if it is a hardware gui. > > regards, > George > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>-La5=: > >From:"Beerse, Corn? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: > >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: RE: Meeting trouble when connecting VNC server > running on Li > nux. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> I have read some materials on VNC web site. > >> I learned that there are really some differences > >> between Windows and Linux graphic termial service. > >> > >> For example, on Windows only one graphic login is > >> permitted. And on Windows more than one person can > >> share the same desktop as VNC does. VNC Viewer does not > >> really login but transmit desktop snapshots and events. > >> But on Linux, allowing more than one person graphic > >> mode login is possible but share the same desktop is impossible! > > > >There are some terms that needs to be specified here: > > > >Console: the terminal (keyboard and display, optionally > mouse) where the > >boot and system messages are displayed. This one is hooked > to the machine or > >even build into it. > > > >Desktop: What you see in front of you. M$Windows, this needs > to be at the > >console, for unix, there is no need, it might even not be possible. > > > >With vnc, on both unix and M$Windows, you get a desktop inside your > >vncviewer. SInce M$Windows can only serve one desktop (the one at the > >console) it is the desktop of the console you get from these > vncservers. On > >unix on the other hand, the default is that you get a fresh, > new desktop. > > > >> > >> But I do not find any materials about why more than > >> one person can not share the same desktop on Linux. > >> Is it because the kernel of Linux graphic terminal > >> service? I am interested in this topic and want to > >> learn more about it. > > > >On linux, more than one person can share the same desktop. > Thats why you > >cannot find any materials why more than one person cannot > share the same > >desktop. > > > >If you mixed desktop and console and need to know why you > cannot see the > >console in a vnc-session, then the major reason is that the origional > >development was the other way round: it started the way it > is on unix but > >that could not be done at M$Windows. Currently, there are > many ways to get > >to the console with vnc. However, not on all systems. > > > >> > >> Do you have some materials about it? > >> Or some suggestions? > >> > > > >http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/ > > > >http://www.hexonet.de/software/x0rfbserver/ > >http://www.tjansen.de/krfb/ > > > > > >there are more... > > > > > >CBee _______________________________________________ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
