Hi Colin, That sounds very interesting. Thanks. I'll look into all that.
Cheers Frank At 08:20 pm 28-01-05 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Frank, > >To review background Beta Aether I joined your group. >B-A sounds similar to subquantum gas (liquids, particles, etc) proposed by >several authors, but please feel free to educate me, thanks.. >An author comes to mind being Robert Neil Boyd who talks about radiant light, >electric light,[light having charge] and makes reference to aether density. >ref. below. > >In reference to Hutchison, I recently came across this link ><http://www.hutchisoneffect.com> on the USA Tesla list ><http://groups.yahoo.com/group/usa-tesla/> where they are presently discussing >the Hutchison Effect. So, I looked in on the Hutchison Effect FORUM, topic, " >Hutchison Effect", and from there to the sub-topic, MATH MODEL OF HUTCHISON >EFFECT , and synchronistically I came across some interesting reading.. > >I read Dave Thomson here ><http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162> , suggesting a >physics model to explain the Hutchison effect. What was most interestingly was >that David said, ("Actually, the photons do not take on mass. They build up >strong charge.") which sounded similar to Robert Neil Boyd's "charged light". > >David's formula: > >Pulse * Cd * Freq >------------------- = kg >(coul^2/m^3) * G > >(More on David Thomson) >Tesla propulsion: <http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/Tesla_Propulsion.htm> >Book: http://www.16pi2.com/ > >(More on Robert Neil Boyd) >Physics: <http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/physics.htm> >Antigravity: <http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/antigrav.htm> > >(More on Hutchison Effect) >Research: <http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/research.htm> >JH home page: <http://www.jbcr-virtualsolutions.com/heffect/accomplish.html> > >The following Hutchison Effect forum post is beyond belief, but then again >after Bill Beaty's wandering stir stick, who knows? : ><http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79> >QUOTE: > Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:13 pm Post subject: Equipment used - HDR & > Tesla Coil > >The equipment I used was three Hyper Dimensional Resonators, two Tesla Coiil, >two plasma balls, and one CB Radio to generate RF. > >The effect was that the copper pipes in my home twisted and broke. I ended up >with a $1600 water bill. > >I have seen many strange spooky events happen after I turn off the Tesla >Coils. Typically within 15 minutes of me turning them OFF. > >The greatest amount of RF generated by the Tesla Coils was at 67 kilocycles as >measured by my frequency counter. There was a secondary peak at 120 kilocycles >not 134 kilocycles as expected. > >Other strange effects include scorch marks, objects levitating, and a strange >smell. Not the ozone smell of the Tesla coil, more like an ammonia smell. > >The effect is is sporadic and I have not yet captured it on film. >UNQUOTE >========== > Cheers, >Colin >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Grimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Colin Quinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 1:08 PM >Subject: Re: Entry to "Phenomena Reports" > > >> At 08:31 pm 27-01-05 -0500, you wrote: >>>Wow. >>> >>>James Bond movie? No way. Sounds more like something seen in a John >>>Hutchison movie. Bill was the microwave oven on during this episode? >>>Hutchison used to have a Tesla coil, a microwave, and a Van de Graph >>>generator all running all at the same time. You have that equipment there. >>>Under those conditions sometimes magic can happen. Stuff would levitate. Did >>>stuff disappear with Hutchison? Wouldn't surprise me. Did you have anything >>>else running in your lab? Like a VDG generator or a Tesla coil? Interesting >>>that at least one careful conservative scientifically minded researcher who >>>once studied Hutchison.. once told me that the effect may as well have >>>been poltergeist phenomena, there were so many variables and it being so >>>weird. >>> >>>Colin >> >> >> I have just been looking at the John Hutchison web >> site and I must say that I find his results in harmony >> with the Beta-atmosphere concept. In our case...... >> >> =================================================== >> CLAYTON, N and F.J.GRIMER. The di-phase concept >> with particular reference to concrete. Developments >> in Concrete Technology, Vol.1, F.D.Lydon, ed, >> Applied Science Publishers, England pp.283-318. >> >> This chapter can be found as page .jpegs in the >> "Photo" section of >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beta-atmosphere_group/ >> =================================================== >> >> .....we were using air pressure, water pressure and >> even ball-bearing pressure to simulate the >> Beta-atmosphere but Hutchinson would seem to be playing >> with a much finer grained pressure level - materon >> cluster pressure perhaps? 8-) >> >> Unfortunately Hutchison's web site doesn't seem >> to have been updated since June 2002. Perhaps he >> has been levitated to a higher plane. ;-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Grimer >> >> >> >> >> >> >><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ><HTML><HEAD> ><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> ><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=GENERATOR> ><STYLE></STYLE> ></HEAD> ><BODY> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Frank,</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To review background Beta Aether I joined >your group. </FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>B-A sounds similar to subquantum gas >(liquids, >particles, etc) proposed by several authors, but <EM>please feel free to >educate me</EM>, thanks.. </FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>An author comes to mind being Robert Neil Boyd >who talks about radiant light, electric light,[light having charge] and >makes reference to aether density. ref. below.</FONT></DIV> ><DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In reference to Hutchison, I recently came >across this link <</FONT><A href="http://www.hutchisoneffect.com";><FONT >face=Arial size=2>http://www.hutchisoneffect.com</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial >size=2>> on the USA Tesla list <</FONT><A >href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/usa-tesla/";><FONT face=Arial >size=2>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/usa-tesla/</FONT></A><FONT >face=Arial><FONT >size=2>> where they are presently discussing the Hutchison Effect. So, >I >looked in on the Hutchison Effect FORUM, topic, " Hutchison Effect", and >from there to the sub-topic, <SPAN class=topictitle><A >class=topictitle >href="http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162";>MATH MODEL OF >HUTCHISON EFFECT</A> , and synchronistically I came across some >interesting >reading..</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I read Dave Thomson here </FONT><A >href="http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162";></A><FONT >face=Arial size=2><</FONT><A >href="http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162";><FONT >face=Arial >size=2>http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=162</FONT></A></A><FONT > >face=Arial size=2>> , suggesting a physics model to explain the >Hutchison effect. What was most interestingly was that David said, ("Actually, >the photons do not take on mass. They build up strong charge.") which >sounded similar to Robert Neil Boyd's "charged light". </FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David's formula:</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pulse * Cd * Freq <BR>------------------- = <SPAN >style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><SPAN style="COLOR: red">kg</SPAN></SPAN> ><BR>(coul^2/m^3) * G </FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>(More on David >Thomson)</STRONG></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tesla propulsion: <</FONT><A >href="http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/Tesla_Propulsion.htm";><FONT face=Arial >size=2>http://www.tesla-coil-builder.com/Tesla_Propulsion.htm</FONT></A><FONT >face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Book: </FONT><A >href="http://www.16pi2.com/";><FONT >face=Arial size=2>http://www.16pi2.com/</FONT></A></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>(More on Robert Neil >Boyd)</STRONG></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Physics: <</FONT><A >href="http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/physics.htm";><FONT face=Arial >size=2>http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/physics.htm</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial >size=2>></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Antigravity: <</FONT><A >href="http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/antigrav.htm";><FONT face=Arial >size=2>http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/antigrav.htm</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial >size=2>></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>(More on Hutchison >Effect)</STRONG></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Research: <<A >href="http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/research.htm";>http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/research.htm</A>></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>JH home page: <<A >href="http://www.jbcr-virtualsolutions.com/heffect/accomplish.html";>http://www.jbcr-virtualsolutions.com/heffect/accomplish.html</A>></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The following Hutchison Effect forum post is >beyond >belief, but then again after Bill Beaty's wandering stir stick, who knows? : ></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><<A >href="http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79";>http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=79</A>></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>QUOTE:</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> ><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> > <TBODY> > <TR> > <TD width="100%"><A > href="http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=240#240";><IMG > title=Post height=9 alt=Post > > src="http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif"; > > width=12 border=0></A><SPAN class=postdetails><FONT color=#999999 > size=1>Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:13 pm<SPAN > class=gen> </SPAN> > Post subject: Equipment used - HDR & Tesla > Coil</FONT></SPAN></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=1><SPAN class=postbody>The equipment I used was >three >Hyper Dimensional Resonators, two Tesla Coiil, two plasma balls, and one CB >Radio to generate RF. <BR><BR>The effect was that the copper pipes in my home >twisted and broke. I ended up with a $1600 water bill. <BR><BR>I have seen >many >strange spooky events happen after I turn off the Tesla Coils. Typically >within >15 minutes of me turning them OFF. <BR><BR>The greatest amount of RF generated >by the Tesla Coils was at 67 kilocycles as measured by my frequency counter. >There was a secondary peak at 120 kilocycles not 134 kilocycles as expected. ><BR><BR>Other strange effects include scorch marks, objects levitating, and a >strange smell. Not the ozone smell of the Tesla coil, more like an ammonia >smell. <BR><BR>The effect is is sporadic and I have not yet captured it on >film.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>UNQUOTE</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>==========</FONT></DIV> ><DIV> <FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Colin</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From: "Grimer" <</FONT><A >href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"><FONT face=Arial >size=2>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial >size=2>></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>To: "Colin Quinney" <</FONT><A >href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"><FONT face=Arial >size=2>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial size=2>></FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 1:08 >PM</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Subject: Re: Entry to "Phenomena >Reports"</FONT></DIV></DIV> ><DIV><FONT face=Arial><BR><FONT size=2></FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial >size=2>> At 08:31 pm 27-01-05 -0500, you >wrote:<BR>>>Wow.<BR>>><BR>>>James Bond movie? No way. Sounds >more like something seen in a John <BR>>>Hutchison movie. Bill was the >microwave oven on during this episode? <BR>>>Hutchison used to have a >Tesla coil, a microwave, and a Van de Graph <BR>>>generator all running >all at the same time. You have that equipment there. <BR>>>Under those >conditions sometimes magic can happen. Stuff would levitate. Did ><BR>>>stuff disappear with Hutchison? Wouldn't surprise me. Did you have >anything <BR>>>else running in your lab? Like a VDG generator or a Tesla >coil? Interesting <BR>>>that at least one careful conservative >scientifically minded researcher who <BR>>>once studied >Hutchison.. once told me that the effect may as well have ><BR>>>been poltergeist phenomena, there were so many variables and it >being so <BR>>>weird.<BR>>><BR>>>Colin<BR>> <BR>> ><BR>> I have just been looking at the John Hutchison web <BR>> site and >I >must say that I find his results in harmony <BR>> with the Beta-atmosphere >concept. In our case......<BR>> <BR>> >===================================================<BR>> CLAYTON, N and >F.J.GRIMER. The di-phase concept <BR>> with particular reference to >concrete. >Developments <BR>> in Concrete Technology, Vol.1, F.D.Lydon, ed, <BR>> >Applied Science Publishers, England pp.283-318. <BR>> <BR>> This chapter >can be found as page .jpegs in the<BR>> "Photo" section of <BR>> ></FONT><A >href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beta-atmosphere_group/";><FONT face=Arial >size=2>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Beta-atmosphere_group/</FONT></A><BR><FONT > >face=Arial size=2>> >===================================================<BR>> <BR>> .....we >were using air pressure, water pressure and <BR>> even ball-bearing >pressure >to simulate the <BR>> Beta-atmosphere but Hutchinson would seem to be >playing ><BR>> with a much finer grained pressure level - materon <BR>> cluster >pressure perhaps? 8-)<BR>> <BR>> Unfortunately Hutchison's web >site >doesn't seem <BR>> to have been updated since June 2002. Perhaps he ><BR>> >has been levitated to a higher plane. ;-)<BR>> <BR>> Cheers,<BR>> ><BR>> Grimer<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ><BR>></FONT></BODY></HTML> >Content-Type: image/gif; > name="icon_minipost.gif" >Content-Location: >http://www.hutchisoneffect.com/forum/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif > >Attachment Converted: C:\internet\email\attach\icon_minipost.gif >
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