John,  most of the “time” dilation would be accompanied by Lorentzian dilation 
of equally large magnitude [contraction is indicative of spatial displacement 
on what remains the “time” axis from our perspective]– just as a “deep enough 
gravity well” can create relativistic effects for objects at the bottom, I am 
saying a time dilation reactor would create a “tall enough gravity hill”  to 
generate time dilations in the opposite direction wrt a black hole but both are 
based on equivalent acceleration [positive vs negative]. IMHO the spectrum 
shifted black light that Mills named his company after is somehow related to 
time dilation of plasma inside the skeletal catalyst Rayney nickel. So far time 
dilation has only been noticed occasionally wrt radioactive gas but IMHO all 
the hydrogen being fractionalized by the powder is actually being aged rapidly 
and it is the difference in these aging profiles that we call dynamic Casimir 
effect [DCE].  it simply awaits for these “passive” effects to become more 
robust [Shawyer’s device?] for the relativistic effects to jump out at us.

I also have a suspicion that nature has a built in shield with respect to light 
and dilation – the fact that measured dilation of a  laser between Casimir 
plates has always been at trivial levels while measureable levels of dilation 
occur to radioactive gases makes me think the random motion of gas is needed to 
“make the turn” made available by Casimir effect such that gas can “turn” 
further and further onto a temporal become spatial vector which allows Casimir 
effect to compound while the laser beam is locked into a trajectory straight 
across the mouth never able to dive down into the bay.
Fran

From: John Berry [mailto:berry.joh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:OT : $55 oil freaking out stock market

You are going to also need some amazing shields to deal with 10,000 years of 
radioactive decay in just an hour.

Actually many problems exist if we assume an accelerated passage of time were 
possible, as the frequency of all radiation would be upshifted in frequency by 
the same amount!

So you might just destroy the planet if you create 10,000 years worth of gamma 
radiation that now has an extremely upshifted frequency and energy And what 
about the particle decay which is now moving with such an energy?

That's a bit problematical.

John




On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Roarty, Francis X 
<francis.x.roa...@lmco.com<mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> wrote:
Jed,
               I do have a more imaginative solution for radioactive waste, 
cycle it through a reactor that ages it 10,000 years relative to one hour 
outside the reactor.. I think this sort of time dilation is going to become a 
side effect of LENR that can be optimized. It occurs already according to 
claims of anomalous decay in radioactive gases but such claims are a passive 
effect of catalyst nano geometry, IMHO the claims by Shawyer are more 
interesting, if correct and optimized it represents an active system where we 
can combine microwave energy with macro scale geometry to dilate larger 
regions..I suspect this is why Shawyer is presenting his technology as being 
“relativistic” in nature. He is unbalancing the spatial and temporal phase 
inside his trapezoid with standing waves  relative to outside his device such 
that any linked forces between these inertial frames can transpose time for 
space and unbalance the equal and opposite action – reactions. He is focused on 
thrust but at a root level he is pushing or pulling between two slightly 
different phases of space-time to create motion. This still all hangs 
precariously on the Naudts theory where hydrogen ATOMS loaded into a catalyst 
sitting on a lab bench can be considered relativistic – without near C spatial 
displacement – supposition being that the region the atom travels thru is 
warped/negative gravity well/depleted of virtual particle density just the 
opposite of the density approaching C or sitting at the bottom of a large 
gravity well like a black hole.
Fran


From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com<mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 4:40 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:OT : $55 oil freaking out stock market

Roarty, Francis X <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com<mailto:francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>> 
wrote:

$55 oil freaking out stock market, So is it really Saudi controlled to bankrupt 
shale investors or is there some possible relationship to LENR?

I do not think that cold fusion has played any role in this. It is caused by 
fracking in the United States which has lowered the cost and increased supplies 
of both oil and natural gas.

The moment it becomes generally known that cold fusion is real and that it is 
likely to be commercialized, the price of oil will fall to $10 a barrel. That 
is approximately what it costs in Saudi Arabia, I believe. It will never rise 
again.

Eventually oil will fall to zero dollars per barrel, and then negative $10 per 
barrel, when it is synthesized from garbage. That is to say, people will pay 
you to take their garbage and others will pay you a little for the oil, which 
will still be needed for plastic feedstock, lubrication and a few other 
purposes.

I hope that eventually people will synthesize teratons of oil from CO2, and 
pump it back underground, where it belongs. This will reduce the carbon 
concentration in the atmosphere and prevent global warming. We could pump it 
underground or ship it off-Earth via a space elevator. If people on Mars have 
no use for it we can dump it into the sun I suppose. That is what we should do 
with all of the fission rad-waste left from today's nuclear reactors. The 
notion that we have to bury that stuff underground here on earth and protect it 
for the next 10,000 years strikes me as unimaginative. It is silly. This is a 
problem we should leave to our great-grandchildren to fix. They will be able to 
do it more easily than we can. It will be a minor expense for them. Some 
problems are best left for posterity to fix.

- Jed

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