Jones, you are the first to discuss the variable mass of the proton. The Vavra and Maly solution (which agrees with Naudts) is for the proton/electron system. There is nothing that says that all of that energy must come from the electron. Why couldn't it come from the energy of the system as a whole, which includes the proton and its spin and fields?.
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > What’s left to call an electron? > > > > Certainly there is no charge, since charge and mass are linear. > > > > Photons can’t be captured, so what is left over? > > > > I stand by the “almost certainly incorrect,...” > > > *From:* Bob Cook > > > > Jones and Eric-- > > > > Jones wrote: “The 510 keV of Maly & Vavra is almost certainly > incorrect,...” > > > > I would say Vavra makes a good case for .511 Mev in his paper on dark > matter at the following link: > > > > > http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1304.0833&ei=VHeXVba1CMLGmAX4lLyQCQ&usg=AFQjCNGeR5fkfAu6tTJInn03b1pOsvgRiw&bvm=bv.96952980,d.dGY&cad=rja > > > > He calls it a small hydrogen that is responsible. > > The reaction that creates the small hydrogen is an energetic electron and > a proton. > > > > I think Robin identified this paper a few days ago. > > > > It is worth reading. > > > > Bob Cook > > > > *From:* Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> > > *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 7:12 AM > > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Fractional Hydrogen without Mills > > > > Eric, > > > > An electron giving up its rest mass and becoming a photon is NOT part of > Mills theory. > > > > Half the rest mass - 255 keV is in play for Mills, spread out in steps. > Robin has a theory with a similar value. The DDL is different, depending on > a number of assumptions, and it need not proceed in steps – ala Mills. > > > > This thread started out with another theory where there was an attempt to > tie this reduced mass value to the FQHE, but ½ is not an acceptable whole > fraction for that (it must be an odd fraction). However, FQHE is a 2 > dimensional phenomenon – as is Mills Orbitsphere, so there is natural > crossover (except Mills avoids QM). > > > > And any fractional charge relates to mass, since there is a linear ratio. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass-to-charge_ratio > > > > I suppose Mills 255 keV value makes a good case for the lowest level > favoring the 2 electron configuration (hydrino hydride or f/H-) since it > returns the atomic unit to an uncharged condition. > > > > > > *From:* Eric Walker > > > > Jones Beene wrote: > > The 510 keV of Maly & Vavra is almost certainly incorrect, but there are a > number of values in the range of several hundred keV which represent the > total energy which can be released in 136 steps. > > > > With regard to Mills's theory specifically (not those of Maly or Vavra), > in some promotional literature for BLP that was promulgated over the list a > year or two ago, I recall seeing some slideware to the effect that as the > electron reaches the innermost level, it becomes a photon. If this > understanding is an accurate reflection of Mills's theory, it suggests that > the electron will have given up all of its rest mass. There would no doubt > be some energy left over for the residual photon, I suppose; perhaps part > of the rest mass of the electron, or its kinetic energy? > > > > Eric > > >
