You are kidding right?

Any signal that shows up is merely being translated in frequency from its 
original location down to the baseband.  The only signal received is very close 
in frequency to the carrier wave.  The modulation signal at the low Hertz rate 
is visible at the receiver output, but it was not radiated by the transmitter.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...


 
David,  
   
  
  
Of course the low frequency square pulses show up on receivers, that is how 
pulsed doppler works!  
  
   
  
  
   
http://www.rfcafe.com/references/articles/images/Signal-Analysis-Modern-Radar-R-S-6.jpg
  
  
   
  
  
When it is on (every pulse) a weather radar puts out ~1,000,000 WATTS, (32 
billion watts EIRP)  
  
   
  
  
Stewart   
   
    
   
  
 
 
  
  
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 2:10 PM, David Roberson    <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:   
   
    Come on now Stewart.  If you take the time to analyze the spectrum of a 
pulsed radar signal, you will find that all of the energy is contained in a 
location surrounding the carrier frequency.   Also, how well do you think a 
dish radar antenna being feed by a bandwidth limited waveguide is going to 
radiate those 200 to 1000 Hz signals?   If you can show me where any 
significant amount of that low frequency is radiated I will assume that you are 
knowledgeable in RF design.
 
 It is easy to convince people that know nothing about radio and radar systems 
to be concerned about unimportant issues.  And, as everyone knows, statistics 
can prove just about anything that you wish to prove based upon the 
restrictions that are placed upon the data that is analyzed.
 
 The same type of reasoning is used to keep kids from being vaccinated or 
cellular antenna locations from being located in the ideal places.  We need 
real science instead of  variable statistics to settle these issues properly.
 
 Dave
       
       
      
      
       
      
      
       
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
 From: ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com>
 To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
      
       
 Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:53 pm        
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...        
         
         
 Dave, the pulse train is a square wave, with the "on" amplitude approx 900' 
long or longer depending upon duty cycle, bouncing between clouds/planes and 
the suface of the ocean           
           
          
          
 Just one weather radar has an EIRP of 32 billion watts of power, which gets 
ducted and scattered by planes and the atmosphere, more during storms.          
          
           
          
          
 Mildly shocking biology with every pulse, depending upon impedence          
          
           
          
          
 Electricity can kill you in a nanosecond, each radar pulse is 1000 times 
longer that that in duration.          
          
           
          
          
 Admit it, you sparkies            screwed up :)          
          
           
          
          
 Stewart          
          
           
          
          
           
          
          
           
          
          
           
          
          
           
          
          
           
           
            
           
           
            
            
 On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, David Roberson <            dlrober...@aol.com> 
wrote:            
            
             The radar pulse rate does not effect the penetration into the 
water.  In other words, the 200 to 1000 Hz rate is applied to the carrier and 
does not independently appear anywhere else.
 
 Dave
              
               
              
              
               
              
              
 -----Original Message-----               
 From: ChemE Stewart <               cheme...@gmail.com>               
 To: vortex-l <               vortex-l@eskimo.com>               
 Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 8:12 am               
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...               
               
               
                VLF radio waves (3–30 kHz) can penetrate seawater to a depth of 
approximately 20 meters. Hence a submarine at shallow depth can use these 
frequencies.                 
                 
                 
                
                 Most of the radars pulse at 200-1000 Hz.                
                
                 
                 
                
                 Most of the coral disease is in shallow water <20 meters
                  
 On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, ChemE Stewart <                 cheme...@gmail.com> 
wrote:                 
                 
 Except low pulsed frequencies                                    
                  
 On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, James Bowery <                  jabow...@gmail.com> 
wrote:                  
                  
                   
                    
                    
                     
                     
 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint                      
<zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:                      
                      
                       
                        
                         
 This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but some others 
may have an interest…                                                           
                  
                         
                                                                              
                         
 Stewart, I think I may have a cause for your hypothesis re: a link between our 
modern radar systems and the dying of coral reefs…                         
                        
                       
                      
                      
                       
                        
                         
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 Time to break out the tin-foil hats???                         
                        
                       
                      
                      
                     
                     
                    
                    
 No need.  Salt water shields against EM penetration.                    
                   
                  
                 
                
               
              
             
           
          
         
        
      
     
    
  
  
 
 

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