I really enjoy browsing this site, the discussions are amazing. I recently on LENR Forum had some similar thoughts but since I am more an enthusiast than and far from a serious physicist so they are pretty speculative and I appreciate from the discussions here that there are also all sorts of nucleus and nucleon state energy and conservation issues to be taken into account. I wonder if they are relevant though so i thought to copy it here: I recently read an article on Space Daily about atoms during a supernova:spacedaily.com/reports/How_do_…ernova_explosion_999.htmlIt talks about X-ray interactions in Supernova producing an exotic plasma state where the inner electrons are ejected from atoms. A supernova is obviously a different environment than that discussed in Leif Holmlid experiment and the article does not talk at all about either cold or hot fusion but I wonder if the high temperatures and energies produced by the lasers might be creating a similar environment on a local scale that has a similar atomic effect that LENR can then maybe take advantage of.I could not help wondering if this could play a part in Rydberg matter formation. Also if the inner vacancies from the ejected photons could capture a muon before the outer electrons rearrange and fill these positions.Note according to the article high energy X-rays are produced as a consequence of this effect which i understand are not seen in LENR experiments. I wonder if the XUV light seen in sonoluminescence experiments and by Mills is at similar frequencies?Could there be characteristic photon emission from transitions in muon shell levels similar to those from electrons and at what frequencies these occur. Could these be observed experimentally?If characteristic radiation can be seen from muon energy level transitions then it could be interesting to see if radiation of these frequencies occur astronomically, either in supernovae or other energetic shocks and boundaries such as associated with different parts of solar flares. Given the muon half life if the radiation occurs well way from known sources such as high in the solar corona rather than just close to the photosphere then it may tell us something about how and where they are formed.I like Axils ideas about the SPP directly producing the radiation but on a slightly different tack I wonder if in the absence of lasers could the SPP mentioned by Axil generate similar disruptions to the inner electrons either directly or magnetically or through the radiation generated by the SPP solitons?If muons are seen do we know if they are positive or negative or do we see both, I suppose in order to form muonic atoms and allow muon catalysed fusion they would need to be negative? I suppose even if muons could be generated from some process perhaps involving decay, interaction or resonance of virtual pions in the nucleus quite a lot of energy would be needed? Would the high temperatures of 50 to 500 MK be sufficient for this? Am I right in saying this is equivalent thermally to about 4.3 to 43 keV? This seems quite low to generate pions or muons. Or is the specific laser frequency also important?Once produced in a nucleus would negative muons wave function naturally move into the available orbital due to overlap with the nucleus or would conservation of momentum require them to be ejected?If negative muons are produced from a negative pion in the nucleus I suppose conservation rules would require a Neutron to change to a Proton. If these come from the deuterium this implies it forms He2 + which I suppose would immediately decay to 2 Protons or by beta + decay back to deuterium. Do we see a change in protium/deuterium ratio consistent with this?Looking further I read that beta decay rates are sometimes modified in highly ionised atoms and sometimes bound beta decay where an emitted election is transferred to a bound state can occur. phy.pku.edu.cn/~jcpei/meeting/201408/litvinov.pdfI wonder if this could also occur for muons generated from pion decay in the nucleus, particularly as the orbitals for muons have greater overlap with the nucleus when compared to electron orbitals. Could it be that atoms in Rydberg state or with ionised lower orbitals are more likely to generate muons or capture negative muons from a nucleus? I suppose this would have been previously observed if this is the case, however. I'm not sure how conservation of momentum is respected in bound beta decay however maybe the momentum not included in the neutrino is taken up by the atom. I suppose any positive muons produced would be ejected and form muonium. Still it is difficult to account for the energy required if they do come from the nucleus. Edit: I wonder if to some extent all nucleons exist in a cloud of one or more virtual mesons according to the quark composition of the nucleon and how their wave functions would behave and interact. I wonder if a highly charged environment such as a collection of nuclei in a Rydberg matter or UDD or an an atom with ionised inner orbitals such a transition of a pion and muon decay can be more likely. Could it be in Rydberg matter the nuclei are too closely packed for beta decay to occur due to the size of the electron wave function in the first electron orbital but pion-muon decay would still be possible? In normal matter with electrons in occupied inner orbitals could this prevent muon decay occurring and instead favour nucleon integrity from a conservation of energy point of view and beta decay? Could such a behaviour be evaluated and measured in terms of half lives and size of wave functions and quantum tunnelling effects? A crazy question... Could a bound nucleon such as a neutron theoretically decay into to or temporarily exist as 3 pions? EDIT: Interestingly 3 pions would have less than half the mass of a nucleon but I suppose other conservation rules would need to be respected, i'm not sure if this is possible. But if it was could this be an alternative source of energy? I wonder if the lasers in Holmlids experiments are required to produce the rydberg matter, cause it to form UDD or initiate its "muon fusion" type behaviour?I remember a while back Axil explained to me about how Rydberg Hydrogen matter forms in 2d crystals and in fact they can stack into threads. I wonder if Deuterium is used if this the same as UDD? Could threads of Rydberg Matter like this resonate with particular frequencies and have a "thermal" phonon effect as has been discussed elsewhere? And would this have a characteristic frequency? Could the laser used by Holmlid excite this resonance at higher frequency compared to thermal resonance in this ultra dense material for example?On a sperate point would Muonic deuterium be special in some way? The orbital muon would spend relatively more time in the nucleus when it does would there be a net charge impact in the nucleus. Could this also disturb significantly the coulomb barrier, and perhaps even perturb the nucleus.I'm also speculating a lot as an amateur enthusiast… and probably sprouting rubbish in my enthusiasm. So I hope someone with more knowledge can clarify and knock some holes in what i just said.
Thanks Stephen From: jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:MMDD .... Muon Mediated Deuteron Disintegration Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 10:15:30 -0700 RE: [Vo]:MMDD .... Muon Mediated Deuteron Disintegration Correction Ø Ø In this reaction of relatively cold deuterons, gamma emission cannot proceed, and fusion to deuterium is suppressed in favor of complete disintegration of protons and neutrons into quarks. … should read: “gamma emission cannot proceed, and fusion of deuterium to helium is suppressed in favor of complete disintegration of protons and neutrons into quarks.” BTW – there is some support for this view - showing up in a paper by Granados on the photodisintegration of deuterium the within the QCD hard rescattering model (HRM). According to the HRM, the process develops in three steps: a photon (in this case, the 24 MeV internalized photon) knocks a quark from the nucleon; the struck quark rescatters off a quark from another nucleon; then the energetic quarks recombine into two outgoing baryons which have large transverse momenta. This is a stretch… of course … if it were not, someone would certainly have suggested it before now. Jones
